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My mov machine

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my invented mov machine, (without batteries nor any other power source except gravity):
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NOTES: Gravity vector is pointing down. Floaters rotate, and all other elements remain static.


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What is it????
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Bonne_den_kule wrote:What is it????
"Perpetoum Mobile" or however you write it.
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'perpetum mobile' is a confused term introduced in the past by people who only though in 'get' (as usual).
That concept was extended until nowadays by so called physicist, but the concept is like a religion (in fact it is a religion itself, born in needs of free -i mean free of cost- energy).

The picture has nothing to do with that stupid 'religion'.

It is a closed hollow ring with spheres which are floating in the water and in the ferromagnetic fluid.
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Re: My mov machine

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Psychophanta wrote:my invented mov machine, (without batteries nor any other power source except gravity):wink:
Lets see a working model then. 8)
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I find an only but big problem for a home-lab to build it:
the ferromagnetic fluid :?
Mercurium is not valid coz it is not ferromagnetic.
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Psychophanta wrote:Mercurium is not valid coz it is not ferromagnetic.
What else is ferromagnetic?
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DarkDragon wrote:
Psychophanta wrote:Mercurium is not valid coz it is not ferromagnetic.
What else is ferromagnetic?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferromagnetism

or google 'ferromagnetic materials' :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid

So basically you just have to suspend nanoparticles with ferromagnetic qualities in a carrier fluid. Much fun.

PRAISE T3H VEEKEE!

(Respektive http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluide ;) )
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ha! nanoparticles!
that's the hardest part for the building of a model
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Psychophanta wrote:ha! nanoparticles!
that's the hardest part for the building of a model
Good luck :lol:
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Your theory is correct. And with nanotech available today i wouldn't be surprised more of these concepts appear and work.

Btw one this link there's a how to make your own fluid at home :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid
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Num3 wrote:Your theory is correct. And with nanotech available today i wouldn't be surprised more of these concepts appear and work.

Btw one this link there's a how to make your own fluid at home :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid
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Sorry, I don't think it will work. The concepts look sound until you try to envision the floaters re-entering the water at the bottom to be propelled upwards again. The same physical properties that make them rise in the water on the left side will cause the water to resist them as they come down on the right. -right? Seems to me anyway.
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netmaestro seems to have found one of the two major flaws in this system: that the floaters will stall on entering the water on the "down" side of the tube. This problem seems to have been simply "drawn around" by putting the waterlevel at the lowest possible point where the floaters enter, the presumption being that the force of the falling floaters would be enough to push those in front through the well and into ascendency toward the magnetic motor. How, though, could you possibly prevent the water and ferrofluid from seeking a level and breaking the machine? Any answer to that question must necessarily require either the suspension of physical laws, or the introduction of an external force not indicated in the drawing. An external force naturally nullifies the perceived perpetuity of the machine, as you then must account for the energy which creates the external force.

Nice picture, though;)
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