Hello! This is me =)

the_off_topic_guy · Post by **the_off_topic_guy** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:13 pm

Hello!

I see that this forum is full of friendly and nice people

Thanks for Bonne_den_kule to solve my problem with the ethernet card driver and now I am here

I'm 19 and after 3 weeks already 20

I'm a scripting hobbyist and I like to do stuff with my computer.

I have been using Perl to make some scripts and I have been thinking of moving to a High Level Language. A couple of Google searches, led me to this purebasic.com website and I downloaded the demo ofcourse and I must say that I'm impressed (a lot

)

PureBasic is the only product so far which gives a demo with that you can do something, because I remember DarkBasic Pro Trial giving me about 15 days or was it even lesser than that :roll:

I'm thinking of buying the full version, but before that I have to know if I can do some stuff with it like these:

1. Cross-platform code. Am I able to make powerful applications without using the Win32 API? (I'm dual-booting Windows and Linux and I also have a Macbook)
2. Am I able to make _easily_ 2D fighting games? And what are the possibilities with the OGRE engine? Can I do even a Grand Theft Auto: Vice City fake?
3. Is it possible to make a nearly unbreakable anti-crack system? (Piracy is very common these days and even if I can't stop all crackers, atleast I would like to stop most of them)

Thanks!
Every help is highly appreciated!

GeoTrail · Post by **GeoTrail** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:24 pm

First of all, welcome

Yes you can make powerful programs without API. API is just extending it's already powerful arsenal

Yes you can make pretty nifty graphic stuff, unfortunately I'm not very experienced with that portion of PureBasic

Making a near perfect anty-piracy system is up to the developer, but nothing is perfect

the_off_topic_guy · Post by **the_off_topic_guy** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:29 pm

Thanks for your reply!
I guess I'll wait a little longer to see if some people with more knowledge about PureBasic and 2D Games come.

But remember that with easily I mean _e_a_s_i_l_y_

As for a start to comfort me in PureBasic, can you or anyone else tell me what is the equivalent of this in PureBasic? (A console application written in Perl):

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#Input Reader - By the_off_topic_guy
print "Hello!, What's your name? ";
chomp($in=<STDIN>);
print "How are you $in? ";
chomp($inb=<STDIN>);
print "Well, whatever you do, don't stay for long at night $in =)\n"

Thanks!

GeoTrail · Post by **GeoTrail** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:36 pm

Something like this

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OpenConsole() ; Opens the console
PrintN("Hello!, What's your name? ")
Name$ = Input()
PrintN("How are you " + Name$)
Input()
PrintN("Well, whatever you do, don't stay for long at night " + Name$ + " :)")
Input()
CloseConsole()

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:51 pm

Purebasic is about as easy as it can get for making 2d games with a programming language. There are "game makers" out there but I dont think thats what you want.

You can make certain types of 3d games in pb but I wouldnt count on anything like grand theft auto, because while the engine might be capable of such a game, pb's implementation is not.

You should search the forum for a game i made called "Warg"

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:22 pm

Welcome and happy birthday in a few.

PureBasic can do most things needed for applications and 2D stuff without OS calls. Can't comment on 3D, haven't got my head around even model-making yet, let alone doing things with them.

For my money (literally, I bought it) PureBasic wins.

Success to you, regardless of your final choice.

the_off_topic_guy · Post by **the_off_topic_guy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:14 am

Thank you for your replies!

I see that PureBasic is something like Python mixed with simplicity

I guess that Input() in Purebasic is the equivalent of raw_input() in Python, right?

Well, then that looks quite easy

I am not a very advanced developer to make a GTA clone and I can't even say I'm a "developer" but I was curious just incase I would do something like that.

I have been using a program called GameMaker (I think most of you know about GameMaker) and actually I purchased it, but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for...

For the finishing questions, I would like to know if I can use the Simple DirectMedia Layer in the Windows as in the Linux PureBasic versions.. Because the help file of Purebasic says it would need SDL in Linux, so I thought I might just import the .so library and make a 2D game just like I did in Perl, so it would be cool if I could use the same code in Windows..

Thanks again!

Pupil · Post by **Pupil** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:20 am

Check out this if you want to see what's possible 2d wise in PB:
http://www.bgames.org

the_off_topic_guy · Post by **the_off_topic_guy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:27 am

Thanks for the link!

I assume lethalpolux has made this B-Intruders game.. Looks very nice, but it crashes here when I try to run it

And if possible, do you know of any 2D fighting games made with PureBasic? Something like a DragonBall Z clone, a Naruto fake perhaps.. (who said I watch anime

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Pupil · Post by **Pupil** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:43 am

There are other games besides B-Intruder there also i.e. 'Lethal Judgment' etc, also shot'em up's..

If i'm not remembering all wrong i think i read quite some time ago that this game was made, at least partly, in PB:
http://www.restricted-area.net/

I don't know what Dragonball ... Naruto... is, if it's anime that's probably the reason i'm not familiar with it

djes · Post by **djes** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:48 am

the_off_topic_guy wrote:Thanks for the link!

I assume lethalpolux has made this B-Intruders game.. Looks very nice, but it crashes here when I try to run it
And if possible, do you know of any 2D fighting games made with PureBasic? Something like a DragonBall Z clone, a Naruto fake perhaps.. (who said I watch anime )

Strange that our game is crashing on your computer, we have tested it on several machines. Could you describe the bug? Have you tried the "compatibility" mode?

the_off_topic_guy · Post by **the_off_topic_guy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:50 am

Hehe

I see that this "B-Games" website doesn't have anything other than just shoot'em up's, which I don't like that much..

I remember hearing of Restricted Area to be a good game and it is commercial, so I never thought it would have been done in PureBasic

But this tells me that I can do even good commercial games in PureBasic.... However, unless someone gives me an example of a 2D fighting game made in PureBasic, I won't take my wallet out

the_off_topic_guy · Post by **the_off_topic_guy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:54 am

djes wrote:
the_off_topic_guy wrote:Thanks for the link!

I assume lethalpolux has made this B-Intruders game.. Looks very nice, but it crashes here when I try to run it
And if possible, do you know of any 2D fighting games made with PureBasic? Something like a DragonBall Z clone, a Naruto fake perhaps.. (who said I watch anime )
Strange that our game is crashing on your computer, we have tested it on several machines. Could you describe the bug? Have you tried the "compatibility" mode?

I assume you are one of the B-Games developers... Well then I can't describe the bug quite well as it just pops up a window with "(Not Responding)" and then comes the traditional Micro$oft Error Reporting Tool...

But trying with the Windows 2000 compatibility mode, the game actually works!
However, I'm not that impressed of it, sorry. The video trailer on your website looks promising but when playing.. oh, it's better not to tell you

djes · Post by **djes** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:23 am

the_off_topic_guy wrote:
djes wrote:
the_off_topic_guy wrote:Thanks for the link!

I assume lethalpolux has made this B-Intruders game.. Looks very nice, but it crashes here when I try to run it
And if possible, do you know of any 2D fighting games made with PureBasic? Something like a DragonBall Z clone, a Naruto fake perhaps.. (who said I watch anime )
Strange that our game is crashing on your computer, we have tested it on several machines. Could you describe the bug? Have you tried the "compatibility" mode?
I assume you are one of the B-Games developers... Well then I can't describe the bug quite well as it just pops up a window with "(Not Responding)" and then comes the traditional Micro$oft Error Reporting Tool...

But trying with the Windows 2000 compatibility mode, the game actually works!
However, I'm not that impressed of it, sorry. The video trailer on your website looks promising but when playing.. oh, it's better not to tell you

Well, I know it's a bit strange at first, but let's try a bit and you'll see that the game is quite fun

We're working on two new projects : purebr3aker and *surprise*.

the_off_topic_guy · Post by **the_off_topic_guy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:27 am

*surprise*? For my birthday! Oh that's nice

The fault is not with your game, but with my taste, I don't like games like that much... I'm more of the 2D Fighting / Platform guy...

By the way, looking around on Google, I found this product called "BlitzBasic" and I see that you can make some really good 2D games with that... Would you recommend this instead of PureBasic for my needs?

Thanks!