Estimated release date of PBv4 for Linux and Mac?

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:47 pm

Fred,

Can you please give us all an estimated time for release of the Linux and Mac version 4 compilers please? I know it's not nice working to deadlines and telling people your timelines but it would be very helpful for me personally and i guess for a lot of other people too.

I've written a piece of software that customers are crying out for but they need a Mac version as well as a PC version. Now i have the fully developed app in PB but v4 can only compile for the PC. I'm kinda stuck now so i've been sizing up other cross-platform languages to port it to.

I thought i would use Realbasic but that is now proving difficult due to my lack of knowledge of it and it's wierd way of hiding most of the code from you. I've ported one of the apps in the suite im developing to RB but i now need PB Mac to save my brain so i can compile the big bugger to Mac OS. I don't fancy writing my SVG file functions again!!!

Please Fred give us some news.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:53 pm

Well as far as I know he hasnt started Mac version yet, and the Linux version is nearing a beta.

I'd backport to pb3 if i were you =)

WishMaster · Post by **WishMaster** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:54 pm

Have a look at PB.CM.
There are some news

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:48 pm

dracflamloc wrote:Well as far as I know he hasnt started Mac version yet, and the Linux version is nearing a beta.

I'd backport to pb3 if i were you =)

I need doubles.

WishMaster wrote:Have a look at PB.CM.
There are some news

Care to translate?

netmaestro · Post by **netmaestro** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:01 pm

If you could encapsulate the functions that need doubles into a dll and write that in RB it could be a solution. Depends on whether the functions you're using lend themselves to that approach or not, which only you are in a position to judge.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:23 pm

netmaestro wrote:If you could encapsulate the functions that need doubles into a dll and write that in RB it could be a solution. Depends on whether the functions you're using lend themselves to that approach or not, which only you are in a position to judge.

RB already has doubles and DLL's aren't cross-platform.

I was going to write this last app in RB aswell but it is quite big and i don't feel like introducing new bugs into the port as it has been tested and fixed in industry for about 6 months. I don't want to waste that. But now i have people wanting it on the Macs. argggg..

Believe it or not it is also quite hard getting gadgets created in a scroll area in RealBasic! With PB it takes one or two commands.

Also have you ever seen the RB forums? There is hardly any code posted so things are hard to understand. It's quite strange looking at multi-page threads with no code posted. I guess it's because of the RAD IDE, most of the code you never see.

Trond · Post by **Trond** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:29 pm

Kale wrote:
WishMaster wrote:Have a look at PB.CM.
There are some news
Care to translate?

The IDE is GTk 2 and now actually works.
The debugger also works.
A lot was done under the hood, and libraries that were earlier Windows only, like the systray library, now works with Linux as well.
Even UTF-8 and UTF-16 strings are no problem and works just as well as the threadsafe mode of the compiler which makes it possible to execute several threads in parallel without constantly getting invalid memory access errors.

I'm not able to find a date.

Edit: No, that's not what I meant. I'm not able to find a date for the release of PureBasic version 4 for Linux.

Edit: Now that's definetely not what I wanted to say. I don't need a date for that, only my computer. And PureBasic 4 for Linux doesn't need a date either.

Post by **freak** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:33 pm

The first public beta for linux was planned to be out by now actually.
However, progress was not as we expected so it took a bit longer. It should be out soon.

As for OSX, i cannot really give any date for that. The update to v4 requires a lot of redesign
in many libraries, thats why it takes so long. We cannot simply set a date and put it out by then,
because if it is not up to date with the windows version, it is not of much use.#
I hope you understand that.

In the future, updates will be smaller again, and therefore also in shorter periods.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:33 pm

Trond wrote:I'm not able to find a date.

LOL!

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:40 pm

looooooozer =)

thamarok · Post by **thamarok** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:59 pm

freak wrote:The first public beta for linux was planned to be out by now actually.
However, progress was not as we expected so it took a bit longer. It should be out soon.

As for OSX, i cannot really give any date for that. The update to v4 requires a lot of redesign
in many libraries, thats why it takes so long. We cannot simply set a date and put it out by then,
because if it is not up to date with the windows version, it is not of much use.#
I hope you understand that.

In the future, updates will be smaller again, and therefore also in shorter periods.

We understand it even if you get ADHD and start climbing the Mt. Everest

(No bad meaning)

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:33 pm

Well, i've ported my apps to RealBasic and everything has gone very smooth and very fast. I'm now able to deliver the mac port to my customers. One thing that made it fast to turn around these apps was the RB RAD/IDE. Maybe in future, think about developing one for Purebasic?

Anyway, my heart still lies with Purebasic, but i just had to get these apps done.

Progi1984 · Post by **Progi1984** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:03 am

Personnaly, i understand you. Your customers before your likes !