Shocking rumor regarding Fred's absence...

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:02 pm

garretthylltun wrote:Wow! Now I don't have to watch "General Hospital" or "All My Children"
anymore!

-Garrett

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:08 pm

thefool wrote:

watch out!

lol!

Yeah, i'm on strict orders from girlfriend to cut down drinking booze.

Oh well, i guess i better grow up now.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:13 pm

Too bad :/
well; if you are still allowed a little now and then it can't be all sad

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:15 pm

thefool wrote:Too bad :/
well; if you are still allowed a little now and then it can't be all sad

And if she also lets you have the odd drink ..

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:18 pm

Dare wrote:
thefool wrote:Too bad :/
well; if you are still allowed a little now and then it can't be all sad
And if she also lets you have the odd drink ..

pervert!

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:43 pm

PB wrote:> The slow pace of development

Slow? You're kidding, right? PureBasic has one of the fastest update rates
that I've ever seen for ANY software package, and I have quite a few!
Closest example: Some PowerBasic updates take over a YEAR to occur.
Look at PureBasic's update history and they're every 3 months or so.

Sure compared to powerbasic, but have you seen the GDC or other such open source projects newgroups and changelogs? Its constant bugfixes and updates. Speed is all relative so I guess it'll depend who you're comparing it to. Personally I think Fred does an amazing job cranking out what he does with such limited resources, I was just saying... relative to certain alternatives its fairly slow.

I mean DarkBasic took AGES to update and have more resources than Fred, yet their product is crap. I'm not saying Fred needs to work faster (*cracks whip*), but he could definitely use some help.

White Eagle · Post by **White Eagle** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:17 am

i'm on strict orders from girlfriend to cut down drinking booze.

Money not spent on booze, is money that can be spent on computer stuff

Post by **freak** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:05 am

@dracflamloc:

> I think if Fred could expand to just 1 more developer on the libraries and compiler it'd really improve their progress a lot.

Hellooo, this is the second developer speaking!
Ok, i'm no fulltime man, but chances are very high that you'll be executing some code i wrote if you do something with PB

@Kale:
No hard feelings at all there from our side.
I'd just like to get some more proof with any further such statements

Now peace everyone!

(sorry to those with certain girlfriends)

SoulReaper · Post by **SoulReaper** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:46 am

@Freak

Respect, all I want to see and forgive me for say these aweful words...

I just want Pure Basic to be better then Dar* Basic I think you know what I mean - I already think it is, but it does lacks on the 3d side...

and of course some tweaks...

now if that was done - well I dont think that there would be much to stop Pure Basic being a #1 seller - also a revamp of the web site would attract a lot of new customers...

apps wise it rocks

just my point of view

Regards
Kevin

fsw · Post by **fsw** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:54 am

PB wrote:> The slow pace of development

Slow? You're kidding, right? PureBasic has one of the fastest update rates
that I've ever seen for ANY software package, and I have quite a few!
Closest example: Some PowerBasic updates take over a YEAR to occur.
Look at PureBasic's update history and they're every 3 months or so.

I second that, but only because you said:

PB wrote:... one of the fastest update rates...

I own more than 1 commercial programming language and have to say that the support/bugfix-release of another one is done withhin hours. It's the fastest I've ever seen.

PS. And yes, I have lifetime updates with this one too

fsw · Post by **fsw** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:10 am

dracflamloc wrote:... It's led me to start considering other options like the D language when planning out a project.

Took a look at D last week and have to say that D has a lot of appealing stuff. The guy that wrote it has a lot of experience, he wrote several C++ compilers. D is like C++ done right.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:47 am

freak wrote:@dracflamloc:

> I think if Fred could expand to just 1 more developer on the libraries and compiler it'd really improve their progress a lot.

Hellooo, this is the second developer speaking!
Ok, i'm no fulltime man, but chances are very high that you'll be executing some code i wrote if you do something with PB

@Kale:
No hard feelings at all there from our side.
I'd just like to get some more proof with any further such statements

Now peace everyone! (sorry to those with certain girlfriends)

Guess I'm misinformed but I thought you worked on the IDE? I'm talking about the compiler features here..?

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:53 am

fsw wrote:
dracflamloc wrote:... It's led me to start considering other options like the D language when planning out a project.
Took a look at D last week and have to say that D has a lot of appealing stuff. The guy that wrote it has a lot of experience, he wrote several C++ compilers. D is like C++ done right.

Well I actually use the GNU D compiler. Gotta support the open source all the way, but yea the digital mars guy is very good.

Trond · Post by **Trond** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:19 am

dracflamloc wrote:Guess I'm misinformed but I thought you worked on the IDE? I'm talking about the compiler features here..?

He's working on the libraries and the debugger.

PB · Post by PB » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:02 am

> I second that, but only because you said:

... one of the fastest update rates...

> I own more than 1 commercial programming language and have to say
> that the support/bugfix-release of another one is done withhin hours.

Hehe, what do you think those many bug-fixed beta libs that Fred pumps out
are? They're don't get counted as "official" updates even though they actually
are. Has everyone forgotten about those? :roll: Sometimes you can be speaking
to Fred on IRC about a bug and he'll do a quick bug fix lib for you try out, in
REAL TIME, not HOURS.

It's happened before and no doubt he might keep
doing so in future -- as long as we don't accuse him of "selling out".

I came from a Visual Basic 5 background. What updates did I ever get from
that? Visual Basic 6, which I would have had to pay for. But I didn't; I bought
PureBasic instead. And did Bill Gates or Microsoft ever add features or fixes
that I requested? No way. Fred did. Fred's doing an excellent job. He rocks!