Linux is a little slow ?

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:45 pm

Look at:

http://legendsthegame.net/ (not open source but free and fun, like tribes 2)

Also look up Nexuiz, Cube, among others. There are sites dedicated to linux gaming.

Btw Inf0 already stated he has ATI and has the drivers installed. THough I think he'd have better luck if he ran debian or slackware. THey tend to be a bit more streamlined for older computers.

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:57 pm

@Inf0Byt3:
Could you go into the comandline and do "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf >>output.txt" and post output.txt ?
Yesterday i installed the official ati drivers on a friends Computer with Ubuntu 6.06 and the installer didn't manage to edit xorg.conf correctly. So it's possible that happen for you too.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:54 pm

Yea I asked him to do something similar before. Hope he responds =)

Karbon · Post by **Karbon** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:00 pm

Remember that "Linux" isnt' an OS. It's just a kernel. So the answer to your question is both yes, and no, depending on exactly what you're doing.

All the window managers for non-MS-Windows systems are slow in my opinion (at least compared to MS Windows).

If you're expecting the same or better performance as your Windows box from your Unbuntu box then be prepare to be disappointed

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:11 pm

Well they probably are slower but onmy notebook there is absolutely no feelable slowness, it may have 100 and not 200 fps but it's deffinitely slick. Also don't forget Mac OS X, I'm currently working on it and I can tell you since it's windowing system uses OpenGL and Hardware rendering it's a lot faster than Windws XP and as fast but less ressource hungry as Windows Vista. hey I can even have playing videos in my Dock resizing the live at 120 fps or so without any flickering.

Inf0Byt3 · Post by **Inf0Byt3** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:04 pm

Hey! Sorry for the late, i just read your posts.Here is the xorg.conf file:

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# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "Default Layout"
	Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
	InputDevice    "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
	InputDevice    "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
	InputDevice    "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "Files"

	# path to defoma fonts
	FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
	FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "i2c"
	Load  "bitmap"
	Load  "ddc"
	Load  "dri"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "int10"
	Load  "type1"
	Load  "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
	Driver      "kbd"
	Option	    "CoreKeyboard"
	Option	    "XkbRules" "xorg"
	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc104"
	Option	    "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "CorePointer"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
	Option	    "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
	Option	    "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

                                                      # /dev/input/event
                                                      # for USB
	Identifier  "stylus"
	Driver      "wacom"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/wacom"          # Change to 
	Option	    "Type" "stylus"
	Option	    "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

                                                      # /dev/input/event
                                                      # for USB
	Identifier  "eraser"
	Driver      "wacom"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/wacom"          # Change to 
	Option	    "Type" "eraser"
	Option	    "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

                                                      # /dev/input/event
                                                      # for USB
	Identifier  "cursor"
	Driver      "wacom"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/wacom"          # Change to 
	Option	    "Type" "cursor"
	Option	    "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "GATEWAY EV70"
	Option	    "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600]"
	Driver      "ati"
	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]"
	Driver      "fglrx"
	Option	    "VideoOverlay" "on"
	Option	    "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Default Screen"
	Device     "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600]"
	Monitor    "GATEWAY EV70"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     1
		Modes    "1024x768" "800x856" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     4
		Modes    "1024x768" "800x856" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     8
		Modes    "1024x768" "800x856" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     15
		Modes    "1024x768" "800x856" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     16
		Modes    "1024x768" "800x856" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     24
		Modes    "1024x768" "800x856" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
	Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]"
	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode         0666
EndSection

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:10 pm

Change the driver section for this device:

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Section "Device"
   Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600]"
   Driver      "fglrx"  # <---- used to be 'ati'
   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Inf0Byt3 · Post by **Inf0Byt3** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:11 pm

Don't tell me I was still using the old driver

.

[Edit]

Aticonfig --initial has a problem then.

Thanks.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:23 pm

Are you using two monitors?

A trick with the ati drivers, you should disable your second monitor until everything is working smoothly, then start from there and setup the dual screens.

If you aren't using dual monitors then get rid of the junk ati device altogether, and keep the fglrx one. The 'ati' driver is provided by X but only provides very basic emulated 2D functions.

Get rid of this one and its corresponding screen section if you have 1 monitor: ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600]

[edit]
oops, changed that

Inf0Byt3 · Post by **Inf0Byt3** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:40 pm

Dude, that screwed it all up. Now it doesn't start anymore. I get the 'death screen'. What should i do? I restored the old file with

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cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf

But it says no screens were found.

What should I do? i've got imporant files there, I can't format

.

[Edit]

Btw, I have just 1 monitor...

Trond · Post by **Trond** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:52 pm

Just re-run xorgconfig.

Inf0Byt3 · Post by **Inf0Byt3** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:16 pm

That didn't worked either

'xorgconfig' command does not exist. However, i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i configured it and it still says no screens found.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:45 pm

run the fglrxconfig again.

Joakim Christiansen · Post by **Joakim Christiansen** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:13 pm

This is the problem with Linux, it's too damn hard to understand

Inf0Byt3 · Post by **Inf0Byt3** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:12 pm

Yeah

. Well, if you use it, you learn. It's not so hard afterall. It's just different

.

About the xorg.conf file. It didn't worked

. Should I format? I tried all methods.