Shannara, can you provide an example for these bugs plz?...

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:06 am

Interesting thread on the Aurora board:

http://www.ionicwind.com/forums/index.php?topic=840.0

Sync (Shannara) wrote: I found PureBasic (Oct. 2003). After talking with the community, I decided to purchase a copy and port my projects over. Not much of a problem there. After awhile, a few things came apparent. Consistancy is the main thing, half completed features, all that fun and jazz. Then the newest window version came out (v4) and is completely unusable for any kind of threading.

Sync (Shannara) wrote: PB impliments partial network functionality, nothing for professional server side unfortunately.

Could you please provide an example showing the failings of using threads with Purebasic? Also, can you please demonstrate why the network lib is incomplete.

I just think it would benefit the PB team and the whole community knowing any problems they need to be aware of.

Ta.

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:25 am

They have already been aware of them for quite some time now. The reason I do not post these things on this forum anymore because of threatened ban.

Some of these things have been responsed to by the dev team as to whether they will be added or not. But any how, here are the links to related threads ...

http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
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http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight= (<- In-thread links as well)
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight= (<- This one is my favorite, we have a roadmap!)
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight= (<- threads within too)
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=

I stopped reporting because of the responses and threats. Bad enough being banned on IRC for reasons only Fred knows and will not share. Therefore, you hardly see me reporting anything anymore. While I do enjoy PureBasic 3.94/win, linux and mac. 4.0 have been a headache.

As noticed in the threads. Some have been replied to, others have not. Some have been only replied after other people noticed the same thing. Or only when someone like Mike S. have replied (in concern to the missing network pieces). Before that happened, I was told off ... No thanks. It's safer not to say much.

I can post more links, but what's the use? I dont fancy be banned from the forums as well.

My last PM from Fred is as follows:

Fred wrote:http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight=

You are really stupid, do you ? One more and it's the forum ban.

Thanks, but I think I may be banned from these forums for raising valid points. If I am banned from these forums then this is more public proof of problems.

Trond · Post by **Trond** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:35 am

Since I'm not banned I'm sure Fred has good reasons to threaten you with a ban.

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:36 pm

Trond wrote:Since I'm not banned I'm sure Fred has good reasons to threaten you with a ban.

I used to feel the same way until it happened to me. Thats how most people feel as it's safer to feel that way. Anyway, this have now been publicised, and no use continuing it unless he wants to.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:55 pm

Shannara wrote:I used to feel the same way until it happened to me. Thats how most people feel as it's safer to feel that way. Anyway, this have now been publicised, and no use continuing it unless he wants to.

Could you please provide an example showing the failings of using threads with Purebasic? Also, can you please demonstrate why the network lib is incomplete.

MLK · Post by **MLK** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:29 pm

the network lib is incomplete, because of:
-no timeout for OpenNetworkConnection()
-no timeout for ReceiveNetworkData/File()

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:31 am

MLK wrote:the network lib is incomplete, because of:
-no timeout for OpenNetworkConnection()
-no timeout for ReceiveNetworkData/File()

Yes! I did solve it using threads though, but i really doubt that is safe.

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:55 am

Ok, we're talking about network lib so here I go ... The referenced threads mentioned this, I *think*.

Most dedicated servers are assigned multiple IP addresses. The ability to bind (listen) on a particular IP and Port combo is a huge must. Sample "corp" software is Microsoft Exchange, Sql Server, mySql, IRC/FTP Servers, and others. If you need more, please let me know

The ability to know when the server disconnects the client via event or check of connection would be nice... The two are the main culpits of the current library. These were requested and shrugged off. ( http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... highlight= ) Until Mike S. from Catalyst Corporation said the same thing. ( http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... ht=#143684 2nd post).

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:08 am

Hmmm. IMO, this is going nowhere except to put another negative thread on these boards.

Fleath// · Post by **Fleath//** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:47 am

Negative topics are just as useful as positive ones, if I was looking to buy a product I'd want to know the bad points of it as much as the good, so I can make a judgement. And so far this seems pretty mature, I'm interested in the progress of the language.

That said I already have a license and dont use threads or the network lib, so I'm just curious.