mix usb 1.1 and usb 2.0

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:08 am

anybody has any experiences? i expected it to matter, but appearently it did not...

see this link for my experiences...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~bluez/datatalk/su ... _and_match

Jan Vooijs · Post by **Jan Vooijs** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:00 pm

BluezNl,

I have almost the same experience as you do. Do not use a 1.1 hub (obviously) with 2.0 media. More expensive sticks are faster, do NOT buy the China "USB 2.0" ones they are 1.1 at most. I have an QMotion 2.0 which is the fasted of the ones i have. Two Creative muvo players claiming to be USB2.0 have the speed (and slower) of USB1.0 drives i have! Creative knows this but refuse to correct there manuals and advertisements!!!
HD's through usb are the fasted way to back-up (if they are true USB2.0).

Reading through your page at your site and seeing the MBR problems did you ever try VisOpSys?? See this link:
http://www.visopsys.org/about/index.html

And read this page:

From the perspective of a user — the "but what the heck is it good for?" perspective — its primary selling point is a reasonably functional partition management program (the 'Disk Manager') in the vein of Symantec's Partition Magic. It can create, format, delete, and move partitions, and modify their attributes. It can also copy hard disks, and has a simple and friendly graphical interface, but can fit on a bootable floppy disk (or CD-ROM, if you're feeling naughty).

As you can see it boots from a floppy (in just 30sec or less) and can handle all kinds of disks used it myself to 'repair' a MBR once a few versions back so it must be better now.

Some other remarks, the Maxtor drives you mention are SATA? I have the same drives in 3 machines, but IDE (now called PATA) they are the best I ever had as a drive: quit, quick can accepte large amount of data continiously (copy a DVD image without problems. And yes Maxtor dies between 5000h and 7000h of (intensive) use. That is in my case around 2 and a half year (my machines are on around 12hrs a day all year round). Some brands are even worse no WD for me (dies within ONE year). Hitachi are very noisy buggers (max 2 years [less]).

All in all I use Maxtors for a very long time now they ALLWAYS warns if you use SMART (enable inside Win XP!!). So no problemo.

I have the exactly same experience with Aopen an FX5200 video card (the NVidea ones). While I prever NVidia above ATI since those cards are total rubbisch (bad timings, ghosting, pixel drop-outs, bad TV tuners). Most
other cards are fine but NOT from AOpen!!

I like the 4 speakers aproch but Is your set not a 4.1? 4 speakers and a base speaker?

Goodluck

Jan V.

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:37 pm

Jan Vooijs wrote:BluezNl,
I have almost the same experience as you do.

must be because you are dutch

have an QMotion 2.0 which is the fasted of the ones i have. Two Creative muvo players claiming to be USB2.0 have the speed (and slower) of

ah, have to add that, the sound dongle was appearently USB 1.1 although that's hard to check (how do you check the actual speed and capable speed of a device? good question)

Reading through your page at your site and seeing the MBR problems did you ever try VisOpSys?? See this link:
http://www.visopsys.org/about/index.html

nope never tried it, but will do... note that my mbr problems were of the extremely weird kind, and though i could fix it, it still did and doesn't make much sense

Some other remarks, the Maxtor drives you mention are SATA? I have the same drives in 3 machines, but IDE (now called PATA) they are the best I ever had as a drive: quit, quick can accepte large amount of data

yep, sata's, i have all sorts, brands and models, and all of them have died on me occaisionally (i just decided to go and do a large backup session tonight

) got maxtor, seagate, samsung, wd, some pata, some sata

some hdd's died inside two weeks (!) (that was actually a brand new raptor) and others have been running for over 10 years i guess (40 gb seagate in my gateway, horrible loud and slow, but keeps on going... same thing for my sony slr1k laptop, the noises it makes are incredible, but it hasn't died on me... yet

)

my server / gateway runs 24/7, with the mentioned 40 gb seagate and a second larger drive (can't recall what it was)

Some brands are even worse no WD for me (dies within ONE year). Hitachi are very noisy buggers (max 2 years [less]).

no such bad luck with wd's for me, except for the raptor

I like the 4 speakers aproch but Is your set not a 4.1? 4 speakers and a base speaker?

yeah, 4.1, sorry, though i was mostly referring to the 3d effect (i played with a friend's new creative card (x-something

) and was quite impressived with it's 3d positioning, although i must say that my old x-fire 1024 got pretty close) and was certainly better than the onboard stuff in my current machine)

Num3 · Post by **Num3** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:29 pm

From my experience, SATA drives have a tendency to die pretty quick!

One Maxtor survived for 1 year, before terminating itself!

Off course we are talking about fresh new devices at the time, so i give it a discount for production error in earlier models...

If the problem persists, in many models, then it's a design fault of the system!

SATA 2 will come... lol

BTW, it seems some USB2 devices require SP2 with updates to be correctly recognized, or they default to USB1.1 ... Sounds weird, but it's a fact... You may also wanna check you BIOS and see if the USB2.0 option is enabled!

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:33 pm

yeah, as you could see i had some devices on 2.0 and some on 1.1, but only after i changed the bios setting, it was a bit surprising to find out that the bios was not by default set to 2.0...