3D engine written in PB?

mp303 · Post by **mp303** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:35 pm

Any such beast?

I was just wondering ... using Macros, it should be possible to implement a really, really fast 3D engine in PB. Has anyone tried?

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:13 am

Nope. Best we've seen are wrappers. I think DarkDragon came up with something but its far from optimal ro feature complete.

You'd have a better bet converting a c/c++ engine or wrapping one especially since you'll hit some pb limitations quite fast.

mp303 · Post by **mp303** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:08 am

What engines have been ported or wrapped? Is there a list?

and Macros would still speed things up, wouldn't they? you wouldn't have a function-call overhead in the PB wrapper itself, only perhaps C functions around a C++ class-based interface, or not?

DarkDragon · Post by **DarkDragon** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:30 pm

dracflamloc wrote:Nope. Best we've seen are wrappers. I think DarkDragon came up with something but its far from optimal ro feature complete.

Yes, I was a newbie, when I started, but now it's working good for a mini game and after I finished my game, I will restart coding it with Interfaces por ejemplo.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:48 pm

mp303 wrote:What engines have been ported or wrapped? Is there a list?

and Macros would still speed things up, wouldn't they? you wouldn't have a function-call overhead in the PB wrapper itself, only perhaps C functions around a C++ class-based interface, or not?

Irrlicht has been somewhat ported a few times, and OGRE of course comes with it, but otherwise 3d in pb is something that is severly lacking. Personally I'd like to see lightfeather ported/wrapped well

Flype · Post by **Flype** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:01 pm

there are also somewhere on this forum low-level wrappers for DirectX and OpenGL.

mp303 · Post by **mp303** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:32 pm

Flype wrote:there are also somewhere on this forum low-level wrappers for DirectX and OpenGL.

Any reason why someone couldn't implement a custom 3D engine using low-level wrappers? Just wondering...

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:39 pm

It would be possible to write something fast. But you would have to use assembly to get maximum performance! Macro's isnt the problem.

Thalius · Post by **Thalius** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:54 pm

btw.. has anyone tried accessing the ogredll's directly yet ? ( Starting some wrapper ? ). If i had some more knowledge about wrappers id do it and atm i cant find the time ( as usual ... ) to look into it.... God i need a new Job !

Thalius

mp303 · Post by **mp303** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:23 pm

Thalius wrote:btw.. has anyone tried accessing the ogredll's directly yet ? ( Starting some wrapper ? )

I've looked briefly at SOW (Simple Ogre Wrapper) ... This is a "flat" Ogre wrapper for BlitzMax, but the DLL itself is "just a DLL", so I expect it would be possible to use the wrapper DLL in PB as well??

This would be considerably less work than starting a new wrapper.

And from the demos, it seems this wrapper DLL has a fairly complete function set - it even has support for physics with ODE ... looks nifty

Thalius · Post by **Thalius** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:27 am

hmm worth a look at !

Currently we have ODE aswell.. tho id like to be flexible...

Cheers, Thalius