Me finally able to make the psi wheel move!

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:13 pm

jack wrote:@thefool, the name suits you well, calling people stupid because they believe in God,
is rather foolish, and then saying that people that believe in God should prove to you
that God exist, is again foolish.
If you want to know if God exist, then do some research, do it like a good skeptic that you are.
May I suggest that you take a look at Theosophy, which slogan is "there’s no religion higher than truth"
I have no problem with the fact that you don’t believe in God, just with the way you express it.
And about psychic powers, they are real, but to pursue them is foolish.

Jack i think you don't understand me. Or perhaps i expressed me wrong; i just said that I(as in myself) will NOT believe in it unless its proven. I have really tried to do the research but i found nothing. And i also checked the PSI wheel out!

I don't have a problem with others believing in god, i have a problem with those who say that I should! And i will continiue to discuss it with them, if they continiue to discuss with me.

And about psychic powers, they are real, but to pursue them is foolish.

How can you tell me not to discuss with others? If you say that they are reality how do you even DARE to tell me not to say that they arent real?
I cant find a reason to how you dare to come here telling me not to say that they are fake, and then say they are true when everybody with a little brain can tell that its obviously the POWER OF PHYSICS that moves the wheel and not some stupid moron thinking he can do telekinese!!

No offence (don't take words like stupid and moron like i actually mean it, grap the idea of what i say instead, please...), but how do you even dare to do it

isnt it against what you just said?

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:37 pm

thefool wrote:.. even DARE to ..
.. you dare to ..
.. even dare to

Oi! Stop taking my name in vain!

Joakim Christiansen · Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:47 pm

stupid moron thinking he can do telekinese

Just kidding

But ok...
You don't believe because you have your reasons not to.
And I believe because I got mine reasons.
Let's leave it with that and respect each other, no one is stupid!

And now let me tell you about those aliens throwing rocks at my dad...

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:02 pm

jack wrote:calling people stupid because they believe in God,

People believing in those things (Gods, own life continuing, etc.) i don't know if they could be called stupid, but i know they are serious mental sicky.
And this has no place to discussion, just because it is an absolute true.

Now, do you think i am a fanatic atheist?
If yes, sorry for you.

jack wrote:And about psychic powers, they are real, but to pursue them is foolish.

Are real? Mmmhh! i don't know, but i am dying to see some prove of it.
I've never see any prove of it.

It is a pity that in a considered "serious" country like is Germany, is full of democratic-christian people. Big pity.

traumatic · Post by **traumatic** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:08 pm

Psychophanta wrote:It is a pity that in a considered "serious" country like is Germany, is full of democratic-christian people. Big pity.

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:09 pm

traumatic wrote:
Psychophanta wrote:It is a pity that in a considered "serious" country like is Germany, is full of democratic-christian people. Big pity.

Is it a lie?

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:24 pm

lol Psychophanta. You are a religious zealot! Perhaps even a religious fanatic!

jack · Post by **jack** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:33 pm

thefool wrote:
And about psychic powers, they are real, but to pursue them is foolish.
How can you tell me not to discuss with others? If you say that they are reality how do you even DARE to tell me not to say that they arent real?
I cant find a reason to how you dare to come here telling me not to say that they are fake, and then say they are true when everybody with a little brain can tell that its obviously the POWER OF PHYSICS that moves the wheel and not some stupid moron thinking he can do telekinese!!

No offence (don't take words like stupid and moron like i actually mean it, grap the idea of what i say instead, please...), but how do you even dare to do it isnt it against what you just said?

You misunderstood me; I meant that spending time trying to acquire psychic powers is foolish.
As far as you being skeptic, I think it’s good.

@Psychophanta; I'll ignore your stupid remarks.

traumatic · Post by **traumatic** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:37 pm

Psychophanta wrote:
traumatic wrote:
Psychophanta wrote:It is a pity that in a considered "serious" country like is Germany, is full of democratic-christian people. Big pity.

Is it a lie?

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:47 pm

Pyscho's just being intolerant of other people's belief systems. Perhaps if he was a Christian he would be a part of the inquisition. Or if he was Moslem he would be issuing a fatwa condeming Christians.

Tsk Tsk, Pyscho.

But then again, totally on topic and in keeping with the general attitude of this thread.

I'm saving up my zinger of an "upset everyone" contribution for later, when the thread needs a new lease of life.

traumatic · Post by **traumatic** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:54 pm

I'm not upset or something, I just don't understand what "germany",
"christians" and "democracy" are supposed to have in common and
what anything of this has to do with this thread

Well at least it won't get boring too soon (and it doesn't even need the
slightest initiation of spiritual power to predict this

)

Dare · Post by **Dare** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:00 pm

traumatic wrote:Well at least it won't get boring too soon (and it doesn't even need the slightest initiation of spiritual power to predict this )

LOL.

Google up on how to be a prophet. It is all too easy.

When you have done that, come back here and rephrase your post.

In no time at all you will have a following (a cult, even!) and you can make heaps of money out of them.

I will be your first and foremost disciple, provided I get a decent share of the loot.

Joakim Christiansen · Post by **Joakim Christiansen** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:03 pm

So people believing that the soul leaves the body then they die is mentally sick?
I guess i'm both mentally sick and stupid!

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:19 pm

Dare wrote: Oi! Stop taking my name in vain!

Sorry

@psychophanta; you are right.
and im probably a fanatic atheist too

It is a pity that in a considered "serious" country like is Germany, is full of democratic-christian people. Big pity.

Just to tell you, USA is much worse. But ehm; is USA considered serious?

@jack; good thing you let me be skeptic

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:02 pm

traumatic wrote:I'm not upset or something, I just don't understand what "germany",
"christians" and "democracy" are supposed to have in common and
what anything of this has to do with this thread

Jack is who started to defend the ignorance, the superstition, the animalism and the anti-essence of every individual human. At least Jack (and freedimension) seem the typical neo-christians. And casually they are both from Germany. I know several people from Germany and other parts (not only from this forum) who are the archetype or those mentioned sicknesses.

I have many reasons to confirm religion is sick and a chaotic-non-rational construction-destruction mechanism.

I am involved since more than 2 year in a project of a new system to navigate throuh interstelar space with autonomic spaceships. The system base is indeed too easy to be invented in this century, and my joung foundation is not able to believe this was not invented and designed before.
The christian chusma destroyed an incountable amount of data developed and researched by great minds since several centuries before Christ until almost our days. All that information will never be in humans' hands. Some of them was re-researched and re-discovered and re-invented, but most of it will never be available for human being.
If this my new discovery is finally viable it will suppose a revolution in the space-discovery stuff, but this is not the bigger thing: humanity will ever remember the effects of all that paranoic destruction of those centuries, because the simplicity if the base ideas of these artefacts.
I am really scared about this discovery, most of all because its simplicity.

It is not important if in big wars humanity is almost all alive beings lost, but the important thing is the information which was got by some humans; that info is the important thing if humans have goals: Goals which can not be other than to build beings beyond the time, and beyond the space. And that beings (machines, entities, devices, or whatever you want to call) would know and manage the current enigms of time, space, etc.

So then the only goal for a consciousness can not be other than science, the knowledge and not the slavery, which is the ignorant animalism deffended by the "without-reason", etc. proposed by religious, prejudices, passed arcaics customs, nonsense protocols, paranoic, psychosys ... (well all that are synonymous with some different shade)