wireless and secure

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:29 pm

hmm, i'm wondering how secure all of us are.. and if / what we use, so here's a little stupid poll

techjunkie · Post by **techjunkie** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:39 pm

I have WPA-PSK / TKIP and "only allow these MAC-addresses on the net" + HW FW + SW FW... so I'll guess I'm pretty secure!

Killswitch · Post by **Killswitch** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:10 pm

Well I've got a Wi-Fi set up that I only secure with a WEP access key. It doesn't really worry me much, the house to my left is empty and the one the the right has a family friend living it. The house directly opposite (my aunties) can get a very weak signal (in her front room) but apart from them there's not really any chance of anyone picking it up. I only really wanted encryption in case someone got a new laptop and picked up my access piont - WEP is good enough for that.

DarkDragon · Post by **DarkDragon** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:27 pm

totally unsecure and proud of it -> Everyone who wants to get into your network will get into it, it doesn't matter if you've enabled any security system.

Killswitch · Post by **Killswitch** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:23 pm

That's my point DarkDragon - if someone really wanted to get into my network they would. But since I don't owe the Maffia any money, nor have I annoyed any Russian hackers WEP is good enough to keep people off it who stumble accross it (which, in my opinion, is the biggest threat to a network).

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:24 pm

Wireless broadband ADSL access is a god send! me and my girlfriend take our laptops all over the house and in the garden. I've set ours up using WEP, seems more than enough for home use.

netmaestro · Post by **netmaestro** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:44 pm

The really big worry is that people who trade in kiddie porn have learned to drive around in a van through residential neighborhoods and park at the curb when they find a good signal. They do their trading from YOUR ip address and they don't get caught. But you could face a serious accusation for something you had no knowledge of or involvement in.

DarkDragon · Post by **DarkDragon** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:04 am

netmaestro wrote:The really big worry is that people who trade in kiddie porn have learned to drive around in a van through residential neighborhoods and park at the curb when they find a good signal. They do their trading from YOUR ip address and they don't get caught. But you could face a serious accusation for something you had no knowledge of or involvement in.

IIRC the mac-address is written into the routerlog. And faking the mac-address is really hard, because it's hardwaredependent. So if your mac-address of your network cards isn't in the log, someone else was in your network.

[EDIT]
And I am living in a village(3000 is the population count) where I've only noticed one new WLAN Infrastructure in my neighbourhood, and that's called "Fritz WLAN Box Fon", so maybe it's just a telephone(The word "Fon" sounds like "Phone" in German).

netmaestro · Post by **netmaestro** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:08 am

That doesn't help... unfortunately. Cops come, arrest you, get in your face and say "WHERES THE LAPTOP?" COME ON, TALK!"

DarkDragon · Post by **DarkDragon** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:44 am

netmaestro wrote:That doesn't help... unfortunately. Cops come, arrest you, get in your face and say "WHERES THE LAPTOP?" COME ON, TALK!"

Are you from Germany

(The village Germany, not a City in the USA)? Have you watched too much TV? Have the cops watched too much TV?

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:12 am

i have been playing around a bit with the router, and whilst being unprotected (for a moment) i noticed someone trying to get into the server... bleep bleep etc.

so... i'd better check on my neighbours

took me little time to switch on all safeguards...

but... why i was running for a while 'unprotected'? speed...

i noticed enormous differences between different wifi devices... i have a linksys wrt54g router (65 bucks, no mimo pre-n or whatsoever) with wap2 aes protection

in combination with a dell laptop's onboard wifi, speed's approx 200 kb/sec, from 25 cm to 10 meters, signal max quality, no prob, speed's higher than needed and browsing works without a hitch, i don't even notice that i'm running wireless when online (haven't tried games though, but some tests show that it just may work, assuming it survives latency issues (ping times looked promising))

but when using a linksys pcmcia card (in another laptop) things are not so good, it appears reception signal is way worse, quite interesting but pretty disappointing, as the card and the base station are the same brand

i'll try to get that pcmcia card running in the same laptop to see if the machine is the issue, but the difference in reported signal reception were startling...

should i try a different pcmcia card / type / brand? anybody any suggestions?

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