Linux - XGL Technology

traumatic · Post by **traumatic** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:58 pm

dracflamloc wrote:Why do you think every workstation in professional engineering runs an OpenGL card?

History, OpenGL comes from SGI

SoulReaper · Post by **SoulReaper** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:07 pm

I forgot the specs thankyou for saying

dracflamloc wrote:Its also much more lightweight than Windows aeropoo.

A quick comparison: Similarly loaded system with some apps running in Linux with XGL: 190mb ram. Vista Beta: 400mb

Also note that XGL runs OpenGL and doesn't have to initialize an entire environment (sound, net, etc) like DirectX does because OpenGL is graphics only. Plus OpenGL has always been faster (Why do you think every workstation in professional engineering runs an OpenGL card?)

It simply runs better as far as I can see

Regards

Kevin

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:04 pm

DarkDragon wrote:
dracflamloc wrote:Plus OpenGL has always been faster
Not true.

yes it is

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:44 pm

traumatic wrote:
dracflamloc wrote:Why do you think every workstation in professional engineering runs an OpenGL card?
History, OpenGL comes from SGI

But they didn't switch to DirectX... for many reasons.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:46 pm

DarkDragon wrote:
dracflamloc wrote:Plus OpenGL has always been faster
Not true.

The only time OGL becomes slower than DirectX is when the graphics card companies do a shitty job implementing it in their drivers. So in reality its not OGL itself thats slower its the drivers.

Trond · Post by **Trond** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:54 pm

DirectX isn't slower, it's just Microsoft's particular implementation of DirectX that is slower. :roll:

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:09 pm

Trond.....ummmmmm.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:40 pm

Trond wrote:DirectX isn't slower, it's just Microsoft's particular implementation of DirectX that is slower.

euuuuhhh.....

Rescator · Post by **Rescator** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:27 pm

This was pure eyecandy!
I really do not see any groundbreaking functionality!
(which is why I do not even use XP Themes or skins at all, waste of resources)

It may look cool to mix a 3d modeler with a OS GUI but that's all, it looks cool.

multiple desktops is allready supported on most modern (and older OS, like Amiga OS)

people that need to do a lot of things at once using multiple apps
tend to have multiple monitors and split desktop,
or a desktop per screen, or a mix of this.

As I said, it looks cool. But I'd rather see technological improvements in other areas of OS.

In other words, stuff like this and Vista etc do not impress me!

Lyon · Post by **Lyon** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:35 pm

thefool wrote:
DarkDragon wrote:
dracflamloc wrote:Plus OpenGL has always been faster
Not true.
yes it is

Not in PB, it is horribly slow in 4.0. Takes forever for a OpenGL window to open or close. The screen does not display properly.

I love OpenGL, and I will take it over DX anyday!

Post by **Dare2** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:01 am

Trond wrote:DirectX isn't slower, it's just Microsoft's particular implementation of DirectX that is slower. :roll:

Thalius · Post by **Thalius** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:08 am

i just got this thing to run on my SuSE Box.... and OMFG!

Fred !!! Wheres PB 4 for Linux ??!!

I dont want to start my Windows again .. ever .... no, wait.. theres still hope *Adds PB4 to Autostart!*

Thalius =)

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:32 am

There are new features, i particularly like the thumbnail window switching

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:36 pm

Here is a nice way you can test it without realy installing Linux, http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203 it's a live cd wich runs XGL on default did try it a few hours ago since I didn't want to risk my production Ubuntu Laptop. It's pritty amazing though font rendering is IMHO a little bit problematic at the moment. It's not as thought through as OS X but better performance then vista I think. Another amazing thing is the psychlological aspect, most Linux users know that their system is fast but there is no way to feel that this is true, however with xgl you really feel the Speed a Linux systekm can give you. Now we need better graphics drivers and some designers and Linux can compete in the desktop workstation area...

SoulReaper · Post by **SoulReaper** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:50 am

the thing that sadens me is that window etc TM got there first if only linux & excuse me XGL got there. I feel things would be a whole lot differnt...

question 1 : is there a future for Linux & XGL

question 2 : will it ever overtake windows

Problem

: Windows is so damn popular How can Linux Compete...

Regards

Kevin