ASM Forum Section

Xombie · Post by **Xombie** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:42 pm

May we have an ASM forum section? I think it would be useful to discuss pure ASM code as well as talk about ASM in PB. I know we can post asm code to Tips & Tricks but I think the average user may not be interested in seeing asm stuff. It's a kind of "off topic" programming topic since it's not "pure" PB.

Just my thoughts.

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:58 pm

Agree, because in the current tricks & tips section there is not good to put ASM only code, but Pure code.

rsts · Post by **rsts** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:05 pm

Actually I wouldn't care, but isn't this a Purebasic forum?

Should we have sections for other languages? machine code? Become like programmersheaven?

Just wondering if we'd be opening the flood gates.

cheers

Post by **flaith** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:08 pm

we already have one in the french forum

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:10 pm

I think it would be a good idea. Pretty handy for many I'm sure.

Xombie · Post by **Xombie** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:01 pm

rsts wrote:Actually I wouldn't care, but isn't this a Purebasic forum?

Should we have sections for other languages? machine code? Become like programmersheaven?

Just wondering if we'd be opening the flood gates.

cheers

Yes but one of the advertised major features is that it allows for ASM to be inserted directly into the code. So while ASM itself is not "pure" PB, the ability to use it in PB is an important part of PureBasic.

And that's why I'm suggesting a separate forum section. To separate it from PB purists.

PB · Post by PB » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:17 am

I'd just suggest using the Off-Topic area, if ASM is to be discussed, because
as rsts said: this is PureBasic, not PureASM.

The majority of users here
would have zero interest in ASM, otherwise they'd be coding with it instead.

SoulReaper · Post by **SoulReaper** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:48 am

I think its would be nice if we had a assember english forum!!!
it would also help PB users to learn how to problem solve in assembly

that includes me as well...

Dont wont to keep translating

Xombie · Post by **Xombie** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:54 am

PB wrote:I'd just suggest using the Off-Topic area, if ASM is to be discussed, because
as rsts said: this is PureBasic, not PureASM. The majority of users here
would have zero interest in ASM, otherwise they'd be coding with it instead.

I'm not suggesting a 100% asm section. The kind I'm asking for is asm as it deals with PB. Like PB functions that use asm.

A recent example would by Psychophanta's code here

viewtopic.php?t=18635

It's not off topic. It's just how to write asm procedures that work in PB. Like an "PB ASM Tips & Tricks" section.

And hey! The French have one!

(no fair, flaith!)

vanleth · Post by **vanleth** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:54 am

nice idea, but wouldnt it just be a 10 thread forum with 4 peoble discussing assembler usasage in PB?

rsts · Post by **rsts** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:49 am

Well, since Xombie posts some of the nicest routines I've seen, I certainly wouldn't want to get in the way. I was merely posing the question to see how far we wanted to go.

Maybe some sort of topic on "other coding" that could include asm as well as other coding topics not part of, but related to PureBasic - e.g. ASM, API's, possibly others?

cheers

Post by **Dare2** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:55 am

FWIW

I like the idea (PureBasic is not an island unto itself, and is often involved with other languages).

I also like rts' idea of a group of forums for other coding. ASM, C, api, etc.

DarkDragon · Post by **DarkDragon** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:08 am

How about just a section: "Optimized Code, Tips'n'Tricks"?

Xombie · Post by **Xombie** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:26 am

rsts wrote:Well, since Xombie posts some of the nicest routines I've seen, I certainly wouldn't want to get in the way. I was merely posing the question to see how far we wanted to go.

Thanks but that doesn't mean my opinion's any better than others

@Dare2 - I think he meant 1 section and just lumping all the other coding into it. Not multiple sections for each topic.

I'm slightly against this since you can't use c code *directly* in PB like you can with ASM. You have to link through other methods and in my mind that makes it non-PB related - off topic.

And api has a section

The Windows section where or Linux or MacOS, etc...

And an "Optimized Code, Tips & Tricks"...ehh... that really doesn't say the purpose. Nothing stopping you from posting "optimized" code in Tips & Tricks.

asm is a completely different animal and that's why I hoped for it to have it's own little section. But again, the section wouldn't be "How to create a complete app using only FASM". It would be "How to write a PB procedure using asm to accomplish XXXXXXXX" task. And people could write small tutorials on using asm with PB and other things.

In the end, it's just my opinion. ^_^ I won't break down and cry (... much

) if we don't get it. I just thought it'd be nice to have a separate area so that people that don't want to fool with asm inside of PB don't have to look at the code in Tips & Tricks. And, conversely, those looking for greatly optimized code or information on asm in PureBasic will know exactly where to go.

DoubleDutch · Post by **DoubleDutch** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:03 am

An section for discussing Assembly Code with PureBasic would be great. Don't forget it should also include the 68K and PowerPC versions... (3 different asm forums???)

-Anthony