Longhorn/Vista Question

[Brice Manuel]

Stupid question, but, Does anybody know if "Console Mode" programs will still work on Vista?

[PB]

I don't see why they shouldn't. Each version of Windows is 90% the same,
in that the API doesn't change too drastically between versions. Is there
anyone here that has a beta version of Vista to test?

[rsts]

I attempted some PB in Vista 5270 but couldn't get the compiler to run - something about couldn't allocate temp space for the compiler. Probably a configuration problem.

When I attempted to return to my Win XP partition, Vista hung and sunsequently had done something to the boot segment on the drive, such that the partitions were not recognized. (Vista uses a different boot manager technique). I spent last night attempting to recover my system and subsequently deleted the Vista partition, lest I be tempted to try it again

If you venture into Vista land make sure you have good backups or, better yet, do it on a sandbox system where losing systems/data is no problem. IMO it's not quite ready for beta testing on production machines yet.

cheers

[Dare2]

Hi rsts,

Thanks for the heads-up! You may have saved me from some heartache next week.

[rsts]

If you "Dare2" venture into VistaLand, just be wary

I had installed an earlier version and noticed the additional boot manager, but had subsequently re-installed XP which installed it's boot manager.

This time, after the hang, the disk was unrecognizable to windows - when I was finaly able to get an XP system genned, XP just showed it as raw.

I was finally able to recover the structure via Acronis undelete, but it was too much aggravation for the little time spent in Vista.

Vista is still a little short on up-to-date drivers so unless you run a pretty generic system you won't be able to do a whole lot anyway.

As I said, I'll think twice before I install on my production computer again.

cheers

[Hydrate]

Well for a month or 2 now ive been using purebasic purely with vista, well a longhorn version anyway, and i havent had any problems at all.

[Lazarus404]

It's not quite 90% like previous version of windows... In fact, really, it's more like about 30%. Windows Vista was built from the ground up using .NET technology. It's supposed to be faster, slicker, easier to develop for and contains features Linux users would sell their mother for.

[Nik]

Post some examples Lazarus.

[xonTAB]

Stupid question, but, Does anybody know if "Console Mode" programs will still work on Vista?

Most of the programs work. Only few programs have compatibilty problems with Vista.

I have tried varies PB programs but X-Soft Chat Program did not work in Vista.

If you want to test any program on Windows Vista just E-mail me on xontab@x-soft.cjb.net.

I have included some screenshots on : http://xsoft.r8.org/vista/
showing Console Mode on Vista.

[Nik]

It's a pity that Microsoft doesn't give the console more power. For computer freaks using console can be much faster than stupid mouse chasing. I think the crap console is one of the biggest weaknesses windows has these days, see transparency in consoles would also be really cool it's standard on Mac OS X and Linux. I heard something of a new console system called Monad but it uses .NET 2.0 and I didn't want to download it. I don't know wether it is possible to make it transparent though...
bye Nik

[xonTAB]

I tried monad both on XP SP 2 and Vista but it is similar to command prompt.
Screenshot of MCH : http://xsoft.r8.org/vista/7.PNG .

[rsts]

Well for a month or 2 now ive been using purebasic purely with vista, well a longhorn version anyway, and i havent had any problems at all.

I had run some of the earlier versions without significant problems also. It's only been 5270 that gave me the "hang" that led to the boot/mbr problem.

However, I 've been unable to run any of the versions to accomplish any "real life" work since I'm unable to locate suitable drivers for my nvidea and scsi/raid cards, fax/scanner, and frequently encounter program incompatabilities, etc.

Glad to see there are some who are able to help them "de-bug" the OS and help the PB community.

cheers

[xonTAB]

I'm unable to locate suitable drivers for my nvidea and scsi/raid cards, fax/scanner, and frequently encounter program incompatabilities, etc.

Did you install an upgrade or clean installation of Windows Vista? When I tried the upgrade feature, the Nvidia (LDDM) driver did not install and I could not get the vista glass theme and effects.

To solve this program I had to format and install a clean install. I downloaded and installed latest Windows XP Drivers and worked properly.

To speed up Vista, I disabled some Windows Services that I did not use. To do this I using "msconfig" tool.

http://www.tweakvista.com/Article38662.aspx can help you what services can you disable.

Can you please send some examples of incompatable programs?

[Konne]

Is MCS = Monad or are they different and why has the console this win95 scroll bar while the window ist vista style... Thats something that looks really, well unprofessional
But yeah cool to see that tesst are going on.
Btw this rounded "Start" Button is awfull liked the old Vista look much more, so lets hope things like StyleXP will be easy to port to the WPF(Windows Presentation Foundation).

[xonTAB]

I Downloaded Monad from the Microsoft site (monad_b2_50215_x86.zip) and after I installed the program, Microsoft Command Shell opened (like screenshot 7). I imagine that MCH <=> Monad.

I agree with you that win 95 scroll bar looks unprofessional with that vista (aero glass) theme. This problem is not only in command prompt but also in other programs.