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thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:14 pm

dont show the "wrong key" messages

just put a "program requires a restart to use your new code"

DoubleDutch · Post by **DoubleDutch** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:38 am

Oops!

PB · Post by PB » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:58 am

> dont show the "wrong key" messages

> just put a "program requires a restart to use your new code"

Interesting... what do you mean by this, exactly? Does this message
appear when both a valid and keygenned serial code is entered, or
just when a keygenned one is?

DoubleDutch · Post by **DoubleDutch** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:42 am

Both (I would assume) - as the idea is to let as little info to the hacker as possible.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:38 pm

Yup! Both. It really annoys a bit heh

Or better yet do nothing when pressing ok, but leave a note in the serial window about the user should restart the program. No messageboxes! better yet as few api calls as possible.

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:35 pm

Hey guys, you're being very bad boys for poor crackers

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:12 pm

utopiomania · Post by **utopiomania** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:06 pm

PsychoPhanta wrote:

Hey guys, you're being very bad boys for poor crackers

Only if the poor cracker is your Mother In Law or something. The other ones out there are quite tired of homegrown protection.

Get real, if your app is worth something, open your purse and let the Pro's minimize your problems.

Bonne_den_kule · Post by **Bonne_den_kule** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:38 pm

This protection seems interesting.
Maybe some of you can make a guide, tutorial or a quick reference how it's work and with some small and quick examples?

Just an idea...

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:41 pm

maybe

utopimania: simply not true. Every good protection has been breaken. I think i have heard your point on this before on ehm execryptor?
However simply not true. A MIX of both would be ideal, however homegrown protection gives you the chance to change the protection when crackers find break throughs..

And why do you call them pro?
How do you know they arent just someone like me who played a little?
you cant know for sure..

utopiomania · Post by **utopiomania** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:09 pm

Every good protection has been breaken.

I don't care, and didn't say anything about that either, The point is, the Pro's will slow them down until they loose.
Homegrown protection won't.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:55 pm

how can you be so sure about that? Sorry but i dont get your point. Its useless to say that and you know its not true :roll:

utopiomania · Post by **utopiomania** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:23 pm

I think you and me are on different planets my friend. I wouldn't trust these anticracker measures for a second, they're
worthless if your app is anything more than a joke. Heh, heh, sorry.

Straker · Post by **Straker** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:31 pm

Bonne_den_kule wrote:This protection seems interesting.
Maybe some of you can make a guide, tutorial or a quick reference how it's work and with some small and quick examples?

Just an idea...

dagcrack posted this a while back and I found it quite useful:

http://inner-smile.com/nocrack.phtml

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:51 pm

I think you and me are on different planets my friend. I wouldn't trust these anticracker measures for a second, they're
worthless if your app is anything more than a joke. Heh, heh, sorry.

"heh, heh, ok
heh, heh"

I come from the planet eath, where are you from?

You wouldnt trust it?.. up to you.
Who do you think has the advantage? the one with the original source or the one wich have to simple add something to the exe.
besides anything can get cracked. period.

And if i say that it will keep wannabe noob crackers, like you, from cracking the app isnt that a good thing? I mean, it will definently decrease the amount of crackers able to crack the app. I know that doubledutch programmed the protection system for his Spymon, and so far everytime a cracker distributed a key or cracked it it seems to have snapped.