vmWare just announced an interesting new product, vmWare Player.
Its like a Runtime only version of their Workstation product. Its also FREE.
It means that you can create a Linux or Windows VM with Workstation, then other users can use it on their own machine without having to purchase a full copy of vmWare.
Fred, you should take a look at this. Perhaps build a minimal Linux VM for Windows users wanting to develop PB apps in Linux...
PB Developers, you can distribute and encapsulated Application environment for your application.
Check it out at http://www.vmware.com/download/player/
vmWare Player
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Yes - the WWW Site is very busy 
but once you eventually begin downloading, the file transfers very quickly.
This is an important new product - it will fundamentally change the way that many corporates deploy their desktops.
M$ seem to have relaxed their licencing now, I've read a couple of different interpretations:
1) You can have as many Win VMs as you like licenced under the same key. The first time you start your Win VM, you owe M$ money.
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2) You can have as many Win VMs as you like licenced with the same key.
So long as you only run 1 VM at a time - you only owe them for 1 licence.
- of course Linux is more or less free.
but once you eventually begin downloading, the file transfers very quickly.This is an important new product - it will fundamentally change the way that many corporates deploy their desktops.
M$ seem to have relaxed their licencing now, I've read a couple of different interpretations:
1) You can have as many Win VMs as you like licenced under the same key. The first time you start your Win VM, you owe M$ money.
-or-
2) You can have as many Win VMs as you like licenced with the same key.
So long as you only run 1 VM at a time - you only owe them for 1 licence.
- of course Linux is more or less free.
Ta - N
Easiest way is to install and run VMWare Workstation on Linux or Windows, create a blank Virtual Machine and Install Windows on it. Now you have a VM image you can run under VMPlayer.Straker wrote: Where can I get a copy of Windows VM to run my windows apps under Linux using this new software?
Remember... VMPlayer only runs VM images, it cannot create them. You need VM Workstation to create them.
Thanks Paul - Got a version of PureVisionXP for Linux with this VM?
Also - so the licensing for Windows applies to the one-time installation? Seems to me that M$ licensing is one copy of windows running only once on one PC at a time, distributing the VM means multiple copies of the same Windows running on multiple PCs at the same time.
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Ok - I just found this dated 11 days ago:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/feat ... nsing.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/pres ... egyPR.mspx
Although its seems to only apply to the Server product line. Here's the crux:
Couldn't find anything related to desktop OS, unless "a Windows Server System product" is a MS euphemism which means "every product we have ever made or will ever make now and forever, amen".
[EDIT AGAIN]
Ok - found this blog of a MS employee who states:
Also - so the licensing for Windows applies to the one-time installation? Seems to me that M$ licensing is one copy of windows running only once on one PC at a time, distributing the VM means multiple copies of the same Windows running on multiple PCs at the same time.
[EDIT]
Ok - I just found this dated 11 days ago:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/feat ... nsing.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/pres ... egyPR.mspx
Although its seems to only apply to the Server product line. Here's the crux:
- emphasis mine.First, we are licensing by running instance, which is to say the number of images, installations and/or copies of the original software stored on a local or storage network. Instead of licensing every inactive or stored virtual instance of a Windows Server System product, customers can now create and store an unlimited number of instances, including those for back-up and recovery, and only pay for the maximum number of running instances at any given time.
Couldn't find anything related to desktop OS, unless "a Windows Server System product" is a MS euphemism which means "every product we have ever made or will ever make now and forever, amen".
[EDIT AGAIN]
Ok - found this blog of a MS employee who states:
You should note that these changes only apply to our server software. Licensing for desktop software remains unchanged at the moment.
Actually, vmWare Workstation & Player supports the VMs created from several sources:
Creating a new VM via purchased copy of ESX/GSX/Workstation
-or- taking a dump of your Desktop OS with LiveState -or- the time-limited trial version of MSVPC.
If you need an instance of Linux, then various Linux Distro VMs are available from vmWares own site.
If you need to create a Windows VM, then M$s SW licencing restrictions prevent you just downloading one. But, you can *roll-your-own* very easily using if you have access to Windows Media and a copy of one of vmWares other products -or- LiveState -or- a demo copy of MSVPC.
Although vmWare's Virtualisation products are by far the better solution, they support various other formats perfectly well. But, be aware that Player & Workstation (& presumably GSX also) cannot co-exist within the same OS installation (Player is a cutdown *RTE* version of Workstation).
I'm guessing that MSVPC can.
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- vmWare ESX / GSX / Workstation
MS Virtual PC / Server
Symantec Livestate
Creating a new VM via purchased copy of ESX/GSX/Workstation
-or- taking a dump of your Desktop OS with LiveState -or- the time-limited trial version of MSVPC.
If you need an instance of Linux, then various Linux Distro VMs are available from vmWares own site.
If you need to create a Windows VM, then M$s SW licencing restrictions prevent you just downloading one. But, you can *roll-your-own* very easily using if you have access to Windows Media and a copy of one of vmWares other products -or- LiveState -or- a demo copy of MSVPC.
Although vmWare's Virtualisation products are by far the better solution, they support various other formats perfectly well. But, be aware that Player & Workstation (& presumably GSX also) cannot co-exist within the same OS installation (Player is a cutdown *RTE* version of Workstation).
I'm guessing that MSVPC can.
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Ta - N
