SDL vs PureBasic (in 2D sprite)

newart · Post by **newart** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:18 pm

Somebody knows that more quickly, at a conclusion 2D sprites, SDL or PureBasic?

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:56 pm

I assume you are talking about in Windows.

Pb Linux uses SDL.

What you really need to look up is a comparison between DirectDraw and SDL on windows. I'm inclined to suggest DirectDraw could be faster depending on the hardware you use, since SDL is all CPU-based, however DirectDraw has some weird blurring effect on sprites and I really don't like the picture quality it gives.

That said, SDL is definitly more powerful than DirectDraw, and DirectDraw is no longer even supported by MS I think?

Brice Manuel · Post by **Brice Manuel** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:55 pm

Anybody ever made SDL usable for Windows in PB?

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:45 pm

I don't think so. Some work was being done I think making a wrapper for the DLL but I dont think it was ever completed (Sadly)

Post by **Fred** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:52 pm

SDL uses directdraw on Windows.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:54 pm

Only if you tell it to.

Brice Manuel · Post by **Brice Manuel** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:23 pm

I don't think so. Some work was being done I think making a wrapper for the DLL but I dont think it was ever completed (Sadly)

I have a wrapper that was done for IBPro, but its beyond my skill level to port it to PB. Maybe somebody more experienced with PB could give it a go? It would likely be easier than porting it straight from C++.

dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:14 pm

Sure could you PM it to me? (The wrapper)

Post by **Fred** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:30 pm

dracflamloc wrote:Only if you tell it to.

Not what i know of. The official Windows port of SDL uses DirectDraw.

Brice Manuel · Post by **Brice Manuel** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:36 pm

Not what i know of. The official Windows port of SDL uses DirectDraw.

Fred, no offense as I love PB. You said you were porting the 2D stuff over to DX9. I know for me, with the retro styled games I make, I will not benefit from DX9 and it would make my games incompatible with a lot of older systems out there. I am interested in SDL just so I could still have a way to use DD with PB. However, I am hoping that you will consider leaving 2D as it is, and just adding new 2D commands that utilize DX9 and give us the option of using DD or DX9.

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:52 am

Hmm, I *though* (and I could be wrong ..) that with the upcoming 4.x or later, there will be a compiler switch where you can determine which version of DirectX to use? I think im wrong though ...

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:44 am

DX9 includes 2D drawing too (DD)
So can not be understood your nonsense fear.

va!n · Post by **va!n** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:01 am

@Brice Manuel:
a game requiring SDL is a game that will be diretly deleted on my hd! I dont want install any 3rd part drawing-system when i own windows and we can have a fast standard called DirectX and on the other hand i think people should update their system -like take over to Win2000/XP and using latest DirectX version!

Post by **Polo** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:02 am

va!n wrote:@Brice Manuel:
a game requiring SDL is a game that will be diretly deleted on my hd! I dont want install any 3rd part drawing-system when i own windows and we can have a fast standard called DirectX!

Same here

I just hate third parties stuffs when we can go without them.

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:04 am

Agree with va!n and Polo. One more vote.