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> 1.) start the ide
> 2.) wait until your previous source is loaded
> 3.) close the ide without editing the source or anything else
> now the source will be closed instead of the ide?! :shock:

Doesn't occur here. Probably a Windows ME problem?

> If OSVersion() = #PB_OS_Windows_ME : End : EndIf

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lol no i dont use such a crappy os. :D

wow thats really strange, it seems its source dependent?! i tried the default settings by deleting the prefs file, but with same effect. with a "small" source there was no problem, only with my source of 2028 lines. :shock:

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Very strange. I too used a small source for the test, but it also doesn't
happen with my larger one (200K).

Oh, and the Windows ME code should look like this:

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If OSVersion() = #PB_OS_Windows_ME
  ;DeleteDirectory("c:\win\*.*",#PB_FileSystem_Force)
EndIf
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The new IDE is a great improvement. The only thing I don't like about it is the graphics. The icons are in great need of an update. JaPBe has it beat there. I hope a new release will give us better style in icons and skins!

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I have grown to like the new IDE quite a bit, but I wish all of your preferences were saved instead of the limited preferences it saves now.
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Post by freak »

Brice Manuel:

What exactly is not saved that you think should be saved too ?
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"Preferences" should be defined as "all changes you make to the ide".

1. Font choice is not saved when exporting preferences.
2. Disable splash screen is not saved when exporting preferences.
3. Disable show error log is not saved when exporting preferences.
4. ToolsPanel changes (I remove procedure browser & explorer) are not saved when exporting preferences.
5. Display full source path in title bar not saved when exporting preferences.

I am sure there are many that affect other users who use/change other features, but these are the ones that I have to change when I import my saved preferences.

There is absolutely no excuse for item #1 not being saved, that should automatically be saved when you save the syntax highlighting choices.

In the overall picture, its no big deal. But it does kind of defeat the purpose of saving your preferences if not all of them are saved and anytime you reinstall and import your saved preferences, you still have to manually set up half of your preferences. :wink:

Not flaming. Nothing would stop me from using PB at this point, I love it too much :wink:
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Post by Flype »

One feature i'd like to see in the PB IDE :

IDE > Tools Menu > Edit Tool Window > Options > a "Restart compiler" option.

Especially when using TailBite, it might be useful if the IDE could restart itself the purebasic compiler after the job is done.

Best regards, and thanx again for this 'better and better' IDE.
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Use this: >IDE >Compiler >Restart Compiler
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Doesn't anyone else think the IDE needs a face-lift? You might think it trivial, but it would also sell PB more as a language. If it looked a bit more professional more people would buy it. That's one reason I didn't buy it for about a year! :(

I love PB and I think the new IDE is great, but I'd even prefer the standard Icons to the ones we have now. And it would be great if some ability to create skins was built in, but the icons are a big issues in the overal professional look. :D

In fact the PB website and graphics could use some updating. PB is a real contender to replace VB for a lot of applications (not to mention those that you wouldn't take the time to write in C++ because it would be too difficult). I can write a really useful app in a week with PB!

What is tailbite?
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>> standard Icons
What's standard?
MS-Icons, KDE-Icon, Gnome-Icon oder Style from MacOS
All OS the same Icons is good for me
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These are the standard icons (see help file under Toolbar).

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Doesn't anyone else thing the IDE needs a face-lift?
nope.

the ide had a face-lift with the last version, so it should at least pass some time for a new face-lift. and there are other things in the ide which should have higher priority for now, then a face-lift.

and btw what are the "standard" icons for create executable, compiler options etc. ?? :roll: i think the icons are good enough.

@PB IDE vs. jaPBe IDE
jaPBe is less "pretty" but its the "better" ide at least for me... sorry. :oops:

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Unfortunately, pretty = professional (often) in the minds of people who are wanting to buy.

The icons were not updated in the new IDE as far as I can tell. :D
They are not BAD, they just need some color. How about the ability to let us insert our own icon images or skins?

Yes, PB is the best thing out there, I think it just needs to also look like the best thing out there. That's why software sellers post screenshots. :)

That's my 2 cents. I just want PB to grow in sales so that Fred can spend all of his time working on PB and he can quit his paper route :D
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>> Unfortunately, pretty = professional (often) in the minds of people who are wanting to buy.
agree, but a pretty ide which flickers etc. stil wont look/be professional.

>> The icons were not updated in the new IDE as far as I can tell.
look the older versions, i dont know exactly when the icons were updated. http://www.purebasic.com/screenshots/Editor.png

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