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I know you've all heard it before....

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:16 pm
by Beeps
What can I say? A couple of days with PureBasic and I'm ready to throw away VB.NET, BlitzPlus and VC++ (hmmm, maybe not the VC just yet, I love it).

It's been a very long time since I was this in love with a new purchase, PureBasic is AMAZING!!!!

HUGE THANKS!


......normal service has been resumed. In other news the cow was returned to it's rightful owner.

:)

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:24 pm
by LarsG
heh.. welcome! :D

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:22 pm
by Kale
What can I say? A couple of days with PureBasic and I'm ready to throw away VB.NET, BlitzPlus and VC++ (hmmm, maybe not the VC just yet, I love it).
he he... remember that PB is going to get a big update soon so more goodness to come! :D

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:26 pm
by merendo
PureBasic is AMAZING!!!!
Well, did you expect anything else? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Welcome to this forum, Beeps!

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:19 pm
by dagcrack
PB rockz, and for those that trashed it cause of a lack of docs, they should shot their balls right now.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:23 pm
by dagcrack
I know a guy that was a week trying to choose what to buy.. if B+ or PB... (as he wanted to develop applications and a bit of games) he finally bought B+ .. some days later, I showed to him some stuff I made and some stuff that was made in PB and this guy got upset.. he was so pissed off, poor guy, he probably wanted to trash b+ more than once (did he?) lol and you guys know why he didnt bought PB at the first time? cause the lack of docs, he even said it, but as I also said.. what he did, diserves a shoot at the.... heh.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:40 pm
by Dare2
* checks gonads. *

Still there. Phew.

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:56 pm
by Uncle B
hhhmm....,VB.NET, BlitzPlus and VC++....

yet another member to compensate my lack of knowledge :lol:

Welcome to the forum.

Bart

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:48 am
by NoahPhense
Dare2 wrote:* checks gonads. *

Still there. Phew.

Code: Select all

Procedure CheckForNads(nads.l)
  Select nads
    Case 2
      messagebox_(0, "Yup, still there.", "Info", #MB_ICONINFORMATION)
    Case 1
      messagebox_(0, "Hmm. It appears that I've lost one.", "Info", #MB_ICONINFORMATION)
    Case 0
      messagebox_(0, "You are either married, or bought the wrong developing language.", "Info", #MB_ICONINFORMATION)
    Default
      messagebox_(0, "Better see a doctor.", "Info", #MB_ICONINFORMATION)
  EndSelect
  ProcedureReturn
EndProcedure

CheckForNads(3)

End
;)

- np

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:29 am
by Dare2
hehe. :)

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:51 am
by TronDoc
Procedure CheckForNads(nads.l) 8O

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:53 am
by koehler
dagcrack wrote:PB rockz, and for those that trashed it cause of a lack of docs, they should shot their balls right now.
Yeah, ok, whatever you say new kid on the block.


I've been programming off and on since 81, from peeking and poking assembler opcodes as integers on an Apple II as we didn't have Applesaoft and the mini-assembler, to Pascal, some Forth, Pilot, C, etc.
PB is an outstanding product.

However, I had our copy dept. print me a copy of the 3.72 docs, and find them to be dificult at best, relatively speaking. Some of them appear to have been updated with examples, such as pg. 275 OpenFileRequester(). Nice.

The latest 3.80 docs may be better, however since I can't d/l them, I would gather they are mostly the same, from my browsing the online docs.

You may be some uber-coder, however the average audience I though PB was targeted at is somewhere in the normal distribution. That being so, I think the documentation is key to attracting new people. A well laid out primer/text should be viewed as a Good Thing(tm). IIRC, the current PB documentation is pretty similar to that which I saw in my Amiga reference books almost 20 years ago... If the PB community really wants to grow and expand, then there has to be effort expended in making more comprehensive documentation with much better examples.
I'm surprised there aren't a couple of simple tutorials on making Windowed apps at the least. I've had a couple of people help me out here and there, and it is greatly appreciated. Not everyone is familiar with event driven windows programming.

If you want to be some l33t fanbio hAx0r/C0d3r, be my guest.

But, to truely become better, one has to take off the rose colored glasses occasionally and reassess strengths and weaknesses.
Currently, PB is weak in documentation. Not that there aren't a number of people putting a lot of personal time in, in creating docs, tutorials, web sites, etc. To those people and Fred, I say thank you. I'm looking forward to the continuing efforts on both the code and documentation side.

To the fanbois who can't see the bigger picture, I feel sorry. Cause I've seen the same thing happen many times, the Amiga community is a particularly sad example of such.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:50 am
by Kale
Ok the docs that come packaged with PB can appear quite thin to some but the wealth of info here on the forum and on http://www.purearea.net more than makes up for it. I don't consider myself an uber coder and i've never had any problems with finding info on commands or syntax. Just search and you will find! (and in the process you will remember it!).

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:40 pm
by Psychophanta
I learn faster playing with examples than reading docs. I suggest it.

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:55 pm
by NoahPhense
koehler wrote:
dagcrack wrote:PB rockz, and for those that trashed it cause of a lack of docs, they should shot their balls right now.
Yeah, ok, whatever you say new kid on the block.


I've been programming off and on since 81, from peeking and poking assembler opcodes as integers on an Apple II as we didn't have Applesaoft and the mini-assembler, to Pascal, some Forth, Pilot, C, etc.
PB is an outstanding product.

However, I had our copy dept. print me a copy of the 3.72 docs, and find them to be dificult at best, relatively speaking. Some of them appear to have been updated with examples, such as pg. 275 OpenFileRequester(). Nice.

The latest 3.80 docs may be better, however since I can't d/l them, I would gather they are mostly the same, from my browsing the online docs.

You may be some uber-coder, however the average audience I though PB was targeted at is somewhere in the normal distribution. That being so, I think the documentation is key to attracting new people. A well laid out primer/text should be viewed as a Good Thing(tm). IIRC, the current PB documentation is pretty similar to that which I saw in my Amiga reference books almost 20 years ago... If the PB community really wants to grow and expand, then there has to be effort expended in making more comprehensive documentation with much better examples.
I'm surprised there aren't a couple of simple tutorials on making Windowed apps at the least. I've had a couple of people help me out here and there, and it is greatly appreciated. Not everyone is familiar with event driven windows programming.

If you want to be some l33t fanbio hAx0r/C0d3r, be my guest.

But, to truely become better, one has to take off the rose colored glasses occasionally and reassess strengths and weaknesses.
Currently, PB is weak in documentation. Not that there aren't a number of people putting a lot of personal time in, in creating docs, tutorials, web sites, etc. To those people and Fred, I say thank you. I'm looking forward to the continuing efforts on both the code and documentation side.

To the fanbois who can't see the bigger picture, I feel sorry. Cause I've seen the same thing happen many times, the Amiga community is a particularly sad example of such.
You had the opportunity to read the 'complete docs' online at any given time.

Sorry you didn't do that. The docs you downloaded, are always online.
The docs distributed, are 'exactly' the same. Only in compiled html format.

- np