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REALBasic?

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:59 pm
by embrance
I jusy noticeda guy who had a sign. with this prog. language.

I went to the site and it looked nice.
It looked more RAD than Purebasic.
and more easy.
Has anyone any experoence with it?
Does it worth its money?400+euros... 8O

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:17 pm
by Proteus
Just downloaded the demo.

I dunno, I think 1.41 MB is a little bloated for an app that only opens a window with a textgadget. (Especially if the same app is only 10 kb in purebasic)

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:46 pm
by scurrier
well i went and checked out about 15 websites on real basic and found that in order to do anything with database u need to spend $400.00US and keep paying a yearly amount of i think 39.95 a year for updates and i also found that there was noone willing to post any speed tests for this basic besides 1 site that was doing parsing that is HD intensive not compiler or cpu intensive furthermore if you own a mac it's the compiler you want but here at PB for the 60.00 or so you get everything including LIFETIME UPDATES and RealBasic had no real info on 3d or graphics to speak of but it's your $400.00 blow it if you want to

Sean

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:42 pm
by embrance
Proteus wrote:Just downloaded the demo.

I dunno, I think 1.41 MB is a little bloated for an app that only opens a window with a textgadget. (Especially if the same app is only 10 kb in purebasic)
im downloading the demo now.Im on 56k:[
1.41mb?OMG!So big?However i have no size problem....
My only problem with pb is the visual editor...
by my opinion it sucks.... :?

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:00 pm
by blueznl
ever heard of line breaks, comma's and periods?

(before any smart alecky b*st*rd makes the remark: don't bother about me ol' lack of capitals, just a stuck keyboard, ok? :-))

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:09 pm
by Proteus
Well, you don't have to use the PB visual editor. :) There are a couple of 3rd party vidual editors out there.

However, if you use RB, your programs will always be bloated. (Well, perhaps not always, but if a VERY simple program uses 1.41 MB, and if every gadget (control in RB) adds 100 kb, that's just not funny anymore!)

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:32 pm
by embrance
http://www.realsoftware.com/images/scre ... hotwin.jpg

its the demo pic.As you can see very button/gadget has an actio to define what to do.
This is what im talking about.SIMPLYSITY!:] 8O

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:45 pm
by Proteus
Ah, okay. I see your point.

I think I remember seeing a program for Purebasic that does that... Can't remember its name though...

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:53 pm
by PolyVector
For simple apps you can always use Rapid-Q... It's a lil' outdated and isn't nearly as nice as purebasic... BUT... you can program in this visual-code-per-button style... so it's VERY useful for simple projects...

NOTE: Even if you use PureBasic, you should grab this since it's FREE TO INCLUDE THE COMPILER in your programs!
Nice touch huh? :)


Download:
http://www.basicguru.com/rapidq/download.html

Memleak Fix: (Don't use the compiler w/out these!)
http://g.yi.org/f.php?f=1975

Examples/Libraries:
http://g.yi.org/f.php?f=7306&r=2330

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:29 pm
by embrance
Thank guys:-D

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:50 pm
by Karbon
I used REALBasic for a little while a year and a half or so ago. I hated it - never could get anything to work right on OSX and it's pretty expensive too... I didn't spend a *lot* of time with it but my initial impressions were very bad.

See this thread

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:56 am
by Nonproductive
I looked at Realbasic as well...
viewtopic.php?t=7330&highlight=

Only one example, true...

One that seems kind of nice (if a bit pricey) is www.runrev.com

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:54 am
by fsw
embrance wrote: ...its the demo pic.As you can see very button/gadget has an actio to define what to do.
This is what im talking about.SIMPLYSITY!:] 8O
embrance,
what you are searching is already there.
Look for my EventConnection Library in purearea.net under user-libs.

Take a look at the examples...

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:33 am
by PolyVector
@fsw
I think Embrance likes the idea of having your EventConnection style programming integrated into a visual designer... I'm sure many of us would love an all-in-one solution for this method of programming in PureBasic...

Edit: Isn't the Visual Designer open source? Or am I mistaken? If so, somebody should really add in this kind of functionality... Maybe I'll have a go at it! :)

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:14 am
by dontmailme
PureDev has this functionality already.......

See http://www.hellobasic.com

although it's not free, it's cheap and theres a demo...

I'd like to see more gadgets in the editor though !