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Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:48 pm
by threedslider
Hi all :)

I like the math so I do my own of discovering as alternative from the PI :mrgreen: (may be at wrong so possible)

All of you know PI is equal as approximate at 3.14, right ?

Very simple, the true limited transcendent decimal is 3.14159265358979323846 on the C programming the macro that defined, ok ?

If you read from the Wikipedia of PI : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi and you will understand more thing ... :shock:

If you see the circle is exactly more than at 3.14... A question arise is if the circle stop at more than 3.14... so it move at infinity very small in zoom, right ? The line move very small at size too, thus for me maybe is not correct maybe ... :shock: :lol:

My approach is a bit different maybe more correct in theory, just a thought :mrgreen:

If we are agreed the PI stop at exactly 3.14 but with infinity, so my theory is simple too :

We can calculate at first the number :

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ConstantPI.f = 3.14

; calculate the multiplication of PI by 3

multPI.f = ConstantPI * 3

; calculate the division of multPI by 3

MyPI.f = multPI / 3

Debug MyPI
 
Which give in PB :

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3.14000010490417
But in reality is more correct at the same as 3.14 with a calculator.

Ok ? :mrgreen:

So I am adding some very simple number is to make as multPI = 9.42 (Even is not correct in PB) by this multPI =9.421 then it gives at :

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3.14033333333
with a calculator and not by PB is error thought i don't know :? as here :

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3.14033341407776
Ok the circle stops at the line to 3.14033333333 as it does not move in very small at size but in infinity ... :shock: :idea: :!:

Voilà

What do you think of my theory? ^^

Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 11:34 pm
by Piero
That's where my avatar came from

Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 10:39 am
by NicTheQuick
threedslider wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:48 pmWhat do you think of my theory? ^^
I don't understand your theory. Did you use Google Translate for that? It's not very comprehensible for me as a German where English is only the fourth language I learned.
In case you wanna understand floating point inaccuracies, just read this chapter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating- ... y_problems

Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 12:37 pm
by jack
Pi is an interesting number, recently I watched this Mathtologer video about the Powell's Pi paradox https://youtu.be/ypxKzWi-Bwg?si=JpGYCbrGyO2vnzGh
I think that most people know about this series for Pi, Pi/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 ..., if you multiply the series by 4 you get Pi = 4 - 4/3 + 4/5 - 4/7 ...
if you add 1000000 terms of the last series you get an interesting result
for comparison here's the true value of PI to 60 digits and below that the sum of 1000000 terms
3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494...
3.14159165358979323871264338327919038419717035250010581556479...

using PARI/GP https://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/
\p60
p=0;s=4.0;for(i=1,1000000,p=p+s/(2*i-1);s=-s)
Pi
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Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 8:53 am
by threedslider
@Piero : Nice to your avatar ! :D

@NicTheQuick : Sorry my English is not my first language :? but yeah thanks for link about of accuracy with floating :)

@jack : Thanks a lot for sharing and link, it is nice too :mrgreen:

Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:47 am
by jack
I am not a mathematician but I think Mr. Mathologer made a mistake in his presentation of the last correction term
1/(N+1/(4*N+4/(N+9/N))) it should be 1/(N+1/(4*N+4/(N+9/4/N)))
with N=10 we have
Pi = 4 - 4/3 + 4/5 - 4/7 + 4/9 - 4/11 + 4/13 - 4/15 + 4/17 - 4/19 = 44257352/14549535 = 3.041839618929402
correction = 16520/165609 = 0.09975303274580488, Pi = 3.14159265167520688 that's 9 correct digits

Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 10:41 pm
by Piero
threedslider wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:48 pmtranscendent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cr46G2K5Fo

Image

Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:46 pm
by threedslider
@Piero : Thanks for YT ! :shock:

Re: Another to alternative from the theory of PI

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:04 pm
by Piero
BTW,

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Debug #PI
Debug 4*(3*ATan(1/4)+ATan(1/20)+ATan(1/1985)) ; DF Ferguson
π in "quantum physics":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ZnptSEPI8