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I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 10:24 am
by Psychophanta
I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, just like the old and new pitagorics school think, but...
Pitagoric old school believed universe is made by numbers, and new people who continues that thinking, believes Universe is arimetic (mathematic).
This is just a curious example, the so called "Wallis product":
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a.q=2
b.q=1
r.d=1
n.q=10000000
For i=1 To n
r.d*a*a:a+2
r.d/b/b:b+2
Next
r/n
Debug r
debug #PI
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 1:26 pm
by Cyllceaux
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 1:45 pm
by BarryG
The output:
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3.1415927321308840802771556
3.1415926535897931159979635
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:39 pm
by Quin
BarryG wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 1:45 pm
The output:
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3.1415927321308840802771556
3.1415926535897931159979635
So...pi. Okay?
I've seen way weirder things in my life that have made me believe in higher powers than some code producing the result of pi. I'm not dissing you, just to be clear, but I'm just not seeing the significance here, would you mind explaining a bit more?
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 6:13 pm
by Psychophanta
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2025 1:30 pm
by Piero
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2025 3:46 pm
by Piero
Quin wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:39 pmI've seen way weirder things in my life that have made me believe in higher powers than some code producing the result of pi.
Amazing grace! how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch; like me!
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 2:58 pm
by Olli
Pi has been discovered in the Indiana (US) since only 150 years. Since more than 30 years, the universe has forced me to believe the Pi was discovered at the Greek's, since 2000 years. I am disgusted, near... depressed...
Source
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:03 am
by Piero
Psychophanta wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 10:24 amThis is just a curious example, the so called "Wallis product"
Is yours an improved Wallis?
I'm curious because it should be smaller than π (
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... series.svg)
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n=100000000
n2=n*2
Debug #PI
r.d=3 ; π=3+4/(2·3·4)-4/(4·5·6)+4/(6·7·8)-4/(8·9·10)… Nilakantha Somayaji
a=2:b=1
; StartTime.q = ElapsedMilliseconds()
For i=1 To n
r+4/(a*(a+1)*(a+2))*b
b*-1:a+2
Next
; Debug ElapsedMilliseconds() - StartTime
Debug r
r.d=1 ; Wallis
; StartTime.q = ElapsedMilliseconds()
For i=1 To n
s.d=4*i*i
r*s/(s-1)
Next
; Debug ElapsedMilliseconds() - StartTime
r*2
Debug r
r.d=1 ; Psychophanta Modified (Test)
; StartTime.q = ElapsedMilliseconds()
For i=1 To n2 step 2
r*(i+1)*(i+1)/i/i
Next
; Debug ElapsedMilliseconds() - StartTime
r/n2*2
Debug r
r.d=1 ; Psychophanta
a=2:b=1
; StartTime.q = ElapsedMilliseconds()
For i=1 To n
r.d*a*a:a+2
r.d/b/b:b+2
Next
; Debug ElapsedMilliseconds() - StartTime
r/n
Debug r
Re: I don't like to think there are magics in the aritmetic, but...
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 3:34 am
by tj1010
I'm no genius, I stopped at differential equations and abstract algebra ~12 years ago, but I'm fairly certain you can't 'figure out' large dynamical systems you don't even have a whole map of using obvious patterns in small states of it.. Which was what was being worked on when this was found by Wallis in the seventeenth century AD..
By the way there are at least three ways to do this more efficiently in calculus that were discovered within a quarter-century of Wallis
