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MoonRock (Basic for real DOS)
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:54 am
by PB
I don't normally like to "advertise" another Basic app here, but this one is
no longer in development (since November 1998) and is no threat at all to
PureBasic. It's called MoonRock, and it lets you create real DOS apps that
you can run from a boot floppy. It's extremely small, but has an adequate
command set for doing all sorts of things. Like PureBasic, it compiles to a
standalone file (*.com) and requires no runtimes. The home page is here:
http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/moonrock.html
(Fred, hope this is okay!).

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:03 am
by Codemonger
I would say no threat:
Quote from website: "The current version of the compiler is written with MicroSoft's QuickBASIC and Visual BASIC for DOS"
I wonder if it could make a DOS based web browser ?
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:11 am
by PB
> I wonder if it could make a DOS based web browser ?
I actually don't recall seeing any network examples in its docs, so I don't
know for sure. Maybe I just overlooked it though, because I don't have
any network interests. Do you want to code your own DOS browser, or
just need one in general?
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:18 am
by Codemonger
no need, just thought it would be interesting. I remember connecting to the old BBS's with the 2400 baud modems, it was just text back then ...
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:25 am
by PB
> I remember connecting to the old BBS's with the 2400 baud modems
Hehehe, yeah -- I had a modem the size of a shoebox and used to connect
to 300 baud places. I didn't know how to download anything, so usually
I just tried to save Basic apps as incoming text and then run them.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:52 am
by Karbon
I know a few crazy people that get online with their TI99 home computer. Talk about legacy hardware!
Those little things are cool though!
Moonrock
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:31 am
by Fangbeast
PB wrote:> I wonder if it could make a DOS based web browser ?
I actually don't recall seeing any network examples in its docs, so I don't
know for sure. Maybe I just overlooked it though, because I don't have
any network interests. Do you want to code your own DOS browser, or
just need one in general?
Rowan Crowe got bored of it (So he told me). I spoke to him many times when we hung out in the newbies channel in the OzOrg servers (defunct now) begging him to release it and add to it and he kept promising to devlop it but real life caught up with him.
He was very quiet and reclusive and I think this was just a small hobby project and not a very serious thing to him.
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:32 am
by PB
I wrote: I actually don't recall seeing any network examples in its docs
I just had a proper check in the docs and yes, there are serial networking
commands in MoonRock (send string, receive, etc). So I guess it's very
possible to make a DOS browser with it...
Re: Moonrock
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:35 am
by PB
> Rowan Crowe got bored of it (So he told me). I spoke to him many
> times when we hung out in the newbies channel in the OzOrg servers
> (defunct now) begging him to release it and add to it
LOL -- you sound like me!

I contacted Rowan a few times also because
I was seriously going to use MoonRock to code my utils (to run in a DOS
box under Windows) before I found another language called "PureBasic".

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:31 pm
by Rogue
Here is a DOS based web browser:
http://arachne.browser.org
and there are a few others listed here:
http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:09 pm
by blueznl
still using gfabasic if it comes to dos...
(one wouldn't think so

)
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:42 am
by Amiga5k
If you're really keen on developing DOS apps, have a look at PBDos (That's PB as in PowerBasic, not PureBasic

). If I'm not mistaken, it's only $39Us now and is quite powerful.
Sorry for the OT, but PBDos is no competition for, um, PB.
Russell
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:17 pm
by Rogue
According to their website it's US$99 not $39, even the upgrade price is more at US$49.
http://www.powerbasic.com/products/pbdos/
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:08 am
by Amiga5k
Oops, my error. The upgrade price was $39 until recently, and that's what I was thinking of. Whether or not it's worth $99 is up to you...
Russell
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:25 am
by Dare2
I tried to take a look a powerbasic same time I was evaluating PB and a zillion other things.
No demo (althougth 30 day money back if you buy via download, I think).
Becomes a fairly hefty $ outlay if you want console, dos and windows apps, the manual, etc. To get VB (via auction pvt sale) is cheaper than Power, and VB.net was cheaper via MS. (In fact, VB.net was cheaper than PureBasic - pity about the .net part)