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Realtime HTML editors

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:38 am
by DarkDragon
Hello,

I'm a user of WinXP. I search for a programm like "Frontpage" where you can edit your homepage in realtime(Freeware). I found one, but not for WinXP.

cu
Daniel

Re: Realtime HTML editors

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:43 am
by ricardo
DarkDragon wrote:Hello,

I'm a user of WinXP. I search for a programm like "Frontpage" where you can edit your homepage in realtime(Freeware). I found one, but not for WinXP.

cu
Daniel
Did you mean WYSISWG? Or what does realtime means?

FrontPage isn't freeware as far as i know.

CoolPage is freeware, not as good as FrontPage but its free :D

http://www.coolpage.com/

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:31 am
by DarkDragon
What is WYSISWG? I meant something like frontpage, or like coolpage but coolpage is only a trial version!

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:42 pm
by benny
DarkDragon wrote:What is WYSISWG? I meant something like frontpage, or like coolpage but coolpage is only a trial version!
WYSIWYG stands for WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET ! That means, if you click something together in an editor, the result/output looks exactly the same.

Re: Realtime HTML editors

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:30 pm
by tinman
ricardo wrote:Or what does realtime means?
I guess realtime was editing your files as they are sitting on the server, instead of editing a local copy and then uploading it. You used to be able to do stuff like this on the Amiga, because you could get device drivers which used FTP instead of a filesystem. I'm not sure about Windows, but I'd be surprised if one did not exit.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:35 pm
by ricardo
DarkDragon wrote:What is WYSISWG? I meant something like frontpage, or like coolpage but coolpage is only a trial version!
No, Coolpage is freeware.
Ok, all the time will be asking if you want to register, but you casn keep it and usie it for free (the licence says that).

There are someother WYSIWYG freeware editor outthere but i can't remember the names.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 4:00 pm
by benny
@tinman:
do you mean something like this :
http://www.coffeecup.com/direct-ftp/
:?:

Regards, benny!

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 4:02 pm
by DarkDragon
thx! Coolpage makes cool pages!

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:46 pm
by tinman
benny wrote:@tinman:
do you mean something like this :
http://www.coffeecup.com/direct-ftp/
Kind of, but I was thinking of a solution where you did not need to use another program - you would simply have a new drive (e.g. "M:") which accessed an FTP server directly. The whole processes would be transparent to the end user, it would be like just using whatever tools you currently use, but loading your files from a different drive.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:06 pm
by ricardo
tinman wrote:Kind of, but I was thinking of a solution where you did not need to use another program - you would simply have a new drive (e.g. "M:") which accessed an FTP server directly. The whole processes would be transparent to the end user, it would be like just using whatever tools you currently use, but loading your files from a different drive.
XP does it for you (but as everything that comes from MS has some disadvantages!).

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:58 pm
by WolfgangS
Hi !
after a while a choosed NAMO. The good thing is it´s very intuitive and generates very clean code. I LOVE this editor.
The bad thing: It costs about 60 € But i think it worth it though.

MFG
WolfgangS

Re: Realtime HTML editors

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:37 pm
by traumatic
CoolPage is freeware, not as good as FrontPage but its free :D
Wow! I read a lot of rumours on the internet, but the story about frontpage being any good was totally new to me! :lol:

ok, just couldn't restrain...

Re: Realtime HTML editors

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:58 pm
by ricardo
traumatic wrote:
CoolPage is freeware, not as good as FrontPage but its free :D
Wow! I read a lot of rumours on the internet, but the story about frontpage being any good was totally new to me! :lol:

ok, just couldn't restrain...
Ok, :(

But it depends on what do you need from a web editor.
I use a lot wysiwyg tables design with the posibilitie to resize rows and cols and to split and merge cells... at the moment i have only found dreamweaver and frontpage good for this specific job, and today designing sites usually needs to manage easilly the design of tables, colums, rows, etc.:wink:

If you point me to a better editor (that does manage tables in real wysiwyg) i will be happy :D

* And if its free i will be double-happy :D :D

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:39 pm
by Kale
MacroMedia Dreamweaver + EditPlus Text Editor = Best :) (But not free :twisted: )

Re: Realtime HTML editors

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:46 pm
by traumatic
If you point me to a better editor (that does manage tables in real wysiwyg) i will be happy
No, sorry.

I think Dreamweaver is quite good for 'instant' table-building.
IMHO Adobe Imageready is also a very powerful tool.

I guess most of todays websites are built upon layouts some graphicians made,
so instead of trimming all the needed gfx, compressing, building tables around it
etc. and worst of all - doing all this by hand - you can simply load your layout into
Imageready and slice it.

It will automatically take care of the table-design and save your images and the .html-file for you.

Of course it's not comparable to hand-made code (no WYSIWYG-editor could ever handle this,
just think of crossbrowser-compatability) but it saves a huge(!) amount of time.

Well, once used you don't want to miss it :twisted:

I don't know if it's sold seperatly but it's included in every Photoshop license.

So, in case you want to know, here's my personal top-3 of webpage-programming-tools:
  • UltraEdit
    ImageReady
    Dreamweaver
Once a website is finished, I wouldn't dare to touch it with Dreamweaver and the likes, because I never saw a WYSIWYG-editor not altering my code in some way (In some cases dreamweaver does this without even telling you.)

blablabla, ok I said enough ;)