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Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:11 am
by applePi
google is developing (secretly) a new OS called Fuschia not based on the Linux kernel
http://thenextweb.com/google/2016/08/13 ... inux/#gref

https://index.co/company/github?utm_sou ... ver-github

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:47 am
by Joris
I hope BEOS II. :)

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:26 am
by Nituvious
Woohoo more market saturation

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:03 am
by Lunasole
I guess it would look like Google Chrome, but will have WHOLE 2 ADDITIONAL BUTTONS to perform an adequate concurrency against Win10 ^_^

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:05 pm
by djes
Joris> I almost forgotten this OS. There was a PC version IIRC

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:32 am
by tj1010
I wonder how they plan on handling hardware support? Where are they getting their driver code from?

This is almost as needed as another programming language or game-engine. Why can't people just go do something new instead of saturating existing markets even further?

Get ready world... Because guess what... I'm launching a burger based restaurant franchise!!!

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:39 pm
by Derren
tj1010 wrote:I wonder how they plan on handling hardware support? Where are they getting their driver code from?

This is almost as needed as another programming language or game-engine. Why can't people just go do something new instead of saturating existing markets even further?

Get ready world... Because guess what... I'm launching a burger based restaurant franchise!!!
They're doing it for them. Apparently they're not satisfied with existing solutions. Just so happens to be that they opened the source. Otherwise you wouldn't even know it, if your next M2M fridge used Fuchsia.

Burger restaurants also don't popup out of sheer spite, but because somebody thinks their burger is better than the rest. Perhaps this new OS will tickle the most out of a Raspberry Pi and maybe you don't need that. but they're doing it anyway and it's good to keep an eye on that. Some careers may depend on it, actually

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:52 pm
by Keya
putting the IoT thing aside, whats everyones thoughts on Fuchsia as a desktop OS? (here's me all happy i can now program for all three main desktops, and then Google has to come along and throw another load of work on our shoulders!?)

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:55 pm
by wilbert

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:09 pm
by Keya
good article wilbert
androidauthority article wrote:The idea that Fuchsia is some kind of desktop OS to compete with Windows or OS X, is in my opinion absurd.
This confuses me a bit - why bother at all then with desktop if you're not going to "give it your best" so to speak? but i accept that it's superearly days and nothing to lose sleep over atm
The first thing we can glean about Fuchsia OS is that Dart will play an important role. The current distribution doesn’t include and C compilers or other high level languages like Java, however Dart is there and working. Since Google has invested heavily in Dart this could mean that Google is working on a device that runs Fuchsia and will be programmed via Dart.
So it sounds very, verrry pro-Dart, but seemingly unsupportive of just about everything-else? even GCC programmers left in the dark maybe? wonder which assembler theyll be using?

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:58 pm
by tj1010
Advancements in A.I.? Nahh.. Advancements in security? Nahh.. Advancements in hardware efficiency? Nahh.. Advancements in space exploration? Nahh.. Advancements in biology simulations? Nahh..

Let's make the hundredth of something and dissolve development collaboration in that market to slow technological and support progress..

I'm still wondering where they are getting their scratch-written driver code from..

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:03 pm
by Joris
tj1010 wrote:I wonder how they plan on handling hardware support? Where are they getting their driver code from?..
That's also the reason why BEOS (the best OS ever imo, now called Haiku) failed. And, sorry to say, but imo every other new os will also fail, unless it has driver support for whatever existing hardware.

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:18 am
by TI-994A
tj1010 wrote:Let's make the hundredth of something and dissolve development collaboration in that market to slow technological and support progress..
An argument against progress, if ever there was one. :lol:

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:16 am
by tj1010
TI-994A wrote:
tj1010 wrote:Let's make the hundredth of something and dissolve development collaboration in that market to slow technological and support progress..
An argument against progress, if ever there was one. :lol:

If you call making an OS from scratch in 2016 innovative, maybe. To me it's just placing themselves in the revenue streams of an existing market.

CPU and RAM tech is what needs innovation. We have the tech to do real time page-table hashing in x86 for example that along with runtime-signing can kill malware and all the variants of exploitable memory corruption. Generic deep learning is also mostly untouched.

Re: Google new OS 'Fuchsia'

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:05 pm
by TI-994A
tj1010 wrote:...it's just placing themselves in the revenue streams of an existing market.
Now you're getting it. :wink: