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A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:56 pm
by DK_PETER
It always gives me a tinkling sensation when listening to the speech..
It might give you a boost too. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsgaFKwUA6g

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:44 pm
by TI-994A
DK_PETER wrote:It might give you a boost too. :)
Thank you! I love that guy, and so it did.

Scary how his dialog from seventy-five years ago perfectly expresses the state of the world today.

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:05 pm
by tj1010
Unfortunately we live in a world where this is called socialism and anything remotely conservative is called fascism and it's only getting worse..

I think Chaplin would be called a "troll" or a "liberal" in 2016.

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:25 pm
by skywalk
No, he would be a libertarian.
And all political ism's would embrace his pronouncements.
Well, maybe not anarchists.

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:19 am
by tj1010
skywalk wrote:No, he would be a libertarian.
And all political ism's would embrace his pronouncements.
Well, maybe not anarchists.
He died less than half a century ago. I don't think your theory correlates well..

Needle-tip example: Try to convince the average person in most countries that keeping the unemployed healthy mentally and physically with tax-budgeting makes the country a better place to live independent of economic conditions. Chances are you'll get a response along the lines of 'there are too many people", "I'm not paying for that", "not in my back yard", "I'd have to wait in line", or "they just don't want to work".

I believe he wouldn't stand a chance against social constructs especially in large-population super power countries.

I'm more a fan of George Carlin: "The planet isn't going anywhere.. We are!"

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:51 am
by skywalk
Wait, there is no time limit for morality or justice. Jesus died 2000 years ago and George Washington 200 years ago. There is no difficulty garnering followers of such people. What gets in the way is the reality of life. Technology will get us closer to these ideals or we will be forced into several more resets through war and plague and famine. Even now, we are highly resistant to plague. And war is becoming so automated, it will be over in minutes. We are left with overcrowding and peak harvesting. But that too is a construct of poorly distributed technologies. Why must humanity gather at the fringes of geography? It is awesome to witness this struggle and I hope to see it diminish with new greener power plants and expert farming and designer stem cell grown foods and cheap autonomous robotics to free man.

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:24 am
by Keya
skywalk wrote:and designer stem cell grown foods
It would be good, but progress is hampered by closed-minded morons who stereotype that "everything genetically modified = bad" rather than treating something on its own individual merits.
skywalk wrote:and cheap autonomous robotics to free man.
well... to "free" man, or at least render him unemployed lol. At least robots for the most part won't be able to put programmers out of work. :D

As for Charlie Chaplin, well ... of course he's an icon in his field, but he got a 16yo girl pregnant when he was 35. No further comment!

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:10 am
by TI-994A
Keya wrote:...he got a 16yo girl pregnant when he was 35.
To be fair, age of consent was different then. :wink:

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:28 am
by Dude
TI-994A wrote:age of consent was different then
Yes, but his age made it wrong regardless.

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:50 am
by TI-994A
Dude wrote:
TI-994A wrote:age of consent was different then
Yes, but his age made it wrong regardless.
Twenty years? In 1924? That's child's play...pardon the pun. :lol:

The King of Rock & Roll, Elvis Presley, started dating his wife when she was only 14 years old. In 1959.

The comedian, Jerry Seinfeld, openly carried on a relationship with a 17-year-old high school student, twenty-one years his junior. In 1993.

Perspectives. :wink:

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:12 am
by Dude
They're all cradle-snatching pedophiles, then. All three that you named make me sick. It's so wrong for someone of their ages to date someone under 18.

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:25 am
by DK_PETER
Really folks. :shock:

You're taking the idea behind the message (cooperation, empathy and equality) and turn it into
a personal attack against the actor and his fallacies.
The message is still valid even if it came from Attila the hun. I doubt that he would
even consider such a message, though some tales about him turns him into a hero. :-)

Anyway:
If you want to examine subjects of perversity, apathy and obtuse behaviour in general - there's no need to go back in time.
We have plenty of fubar personalities and ideologies to choose from in our time alone.

Time for a new 'off Topic' - topic.

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:34 pm
by TI-994A
DK_PETER wrote:If you want to examine subjects of perversity, apathy and obtuse behaviour in general - there's no need to go back in time.
We have plenty of fubar personalities and ideologies to choose from in our time alone.
The human condition lacks perfection. Expecting it is the human condition. :wink:

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:51 pm
by Otrebor
Dude wrote:They're all cradle-snatching pedophiles, then. All three that you named make me sick. It's so wrong for someone of their ages to date someone under 18.
Elvis was about 24 years old in 1959. :wink:

Re: A message to humanity - Charlie Chaplin

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:21 am
by tj1010
I at least differentiate Chaplin from the people in my country, America, that either think certain groups are to blame for their own circumstances, or think a majority is to blame for every negative condition, but all want one group or another to stay out of their neighborhood.

Like the 24 YO who leaves their six-figure household to go protest welfare regulation and minimum-wage, but lives at least ten-minutes from any home worth less than $300,000.00 and who's family calls the cops when a cheap car comes though.. It's sociopath behavior.