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common courtesy

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 11:55 am
by tejon
is it not a custom to give credit to the author?
i mean, if i make changes to someone else's code
and post it here, should i not mention the original aothor?
something like: based largely on John Doe's code.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 1:01 pm
by tejon
oh well, so nobody cares :(
i had some code i wanted post but things being as they are,
better not.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 1:16 pm
by freak
I don't quite understand what your problem is.
Why don't you want to post your code?

Do you think people will use it without giving you credit?

Well, you can't prevent this. I for my part always mention it, if i reuse
code written by others (if i don't for get to :oops: )

Timo

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 1:27 pm
by Berikco
tejon wrote:oh well, so nobody cares :(
i had some code i wanted post but things being as they are,
better not.
Only one hour to wait for a reply is a little bit short...give ppl some time, most - from europe - are working now, including me :)

Yes, its always nice to give some credit to the author of the original code.

I hereby give some credit (2 eurocent) to fred for his help on the Visual Designer :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 2:31 pm
by Inner
Yes, infact when I use someone elses code, there name is put into a text file, with a discription of what it was I used, and in code is commented that this section of code doesn't 'belong' to me with the authors name somewhere around, including but not limited too credit in the about box.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 3:45 pm
by freak
Berikco wrote:most - from europe - are working now, including me :)
At least you "should", instead of reading forums :D
Berikco wrote:I hereby give some credit (2 eurocent) to fred for his help on the Visual Designer :mrgreen:
LOL :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 3:50 pm
by Manolo
Hi,
You need credits? Ok.
I learn more with this forum. Thanks to all, and in special for you, but sorry, my aportation is only 0,001 € cents, I am pour Tejon.
Ah, I dont nedd you code, is very god, but not for me.
I have 53 years old with 25 years of esperience in Unix and only 2 years
in windows.

Manolo :?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 6:50 pm
by tejon
it's not that i am that good a programmer, but to just grab my post
and making it your own, without giving credit, is a bit insulting to me.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 7:17 pm
by freak
btw: who did that?

Timo

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 7:30 pm
by Pupil
tejon wrote:it's not that i am that good a programmer, but to just grab my post
and making it your own, without giving credit, is a bit insulting to me.
Have you looked at the history list of the code snipp you're refering to?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 10:32 pm
by ricardo
tejon wrote:oh well, so nobody cares :(
i had some code i wanted post but things being as they are,
better not.
I don't get your point.

If someone use your code to build an application... did you expect some credit?

In this forums everyone helps each other and many times everyone forget who writes which code (and i don't care) because we are not posting copyrighted code, just examples, tips, etc. 'make on the fly' code.

If you have some other kind of code that you don't want or can share, just don't post it.

BTW, credit where? In some other posts here? what for?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 2:11 am
by tejon
OK, since some people don't know what or who i am talking about,
take a look in the tips & tricks section, if you looked at my post
"demo on using the FPU" (before it was deleted -by geoff-) then look
at Geoff's post
"double extended precision in PureBasic", at first he gave me
credits but then he decided to take them out, making it look
like he's work.
look, i am happy if anybody finds it usefull, but making it look like
it's your work is plagiarism.
to pupil, yes i have looked, the code is still mostly mine, only minor
cosmetic changes and a few bug fixes made by geoff.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 4:01 am
by ricardo
but making it look like
it's your work is plagiarism
Im not agree.

There is a difference on doing that, with simple take a code posted and integrate to your own code and maybe forgetting where did you take it.
Maybe the best solution is always give credits, but since many of us codes here 'on the fly', this credits are not a very pragmatic practice.

And if we see it in a very strict way, if some one expect credits or some special treatment to the code, then we need to put a comment about acompaining the code: some kind of licence.

But if the code, as usuall, is just a lonely piece of code posted in the forums, i don't think that we can't complain if someone use it and forget to giving us some credit about it.

If im wrong, please make me see it since i copy many snippets from the forums but i don't store the name of the coder, just because i never realise that it was part of the 'game' here in this forum.

And then if i use the snippets some day, im sure i will forget to give credits... in fact all my codes have parts that i have learned here :roll:

Tejon, i don't think nobody are trying to steal any code here.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 4:10 am
by tejon
ricardo, sorry for not making myself clear, i don't expect anyone
to give me credit if some of my snippet is used in your project,
what i am objecting to, is publishing my post (with slight changes)
and calling it your own.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 6:01 am
by Max.
tejon wrote:ricardo, sorry for not making myself clear, i don't expect anyone
to give me credit if some of my snippet is used in your project,
what i am objecting to, is publishing my post (with slight changes)
and calling it your own.
In the posting you refer (viewtopic.php?t=6155&start=0&postdays=0 ... highlight= to is clearly stated

Code: Select all

;   CHANGES HISTORY 
;   =============== 
; 
; 3 Apr 2003 
;   Procedures created by tejon 
;14 May 2003
;   Geoff made these changes: 
and the last edit was before your posting.

Did I misunderstand?