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Are you serious? Look at the release history at http://www.purebasic.com/news.php and you'll see the last update was in Oct 2014, just 4 months ago. What's the problem? It's not even half a year since the last update.

Louise wrote:Hi all,
Why does not the news of the next version of Pb? Whether support the Pb are stopped?
I want to inform Mr Fred. This silence is disturbing.

You must be thinking of the other PB. (3 years since the last update)

I've barely managed to use many of the new features in the latest PureBasic update.


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What's missing? What do you feel you "must have" that the latest update omitted?

To the OP: there was a thread made just for people like you: http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... =7&t=45773

And in the category "Most frantic userbase" the nominees are C, Perl, Java and PureBasic. The Oscar goes to... drumroll please... PureBasic from Fantaisie Software! Let's hear it for this dedicated team!

Perl must be the DiCaprio then.

Windows Apps --> .Net
Support .net means writing an Wrapper to C#.
Are COM objects not implemented?

why not be write a program for Windows tablets? why not support the .NET Framework? Why does not support COM objects? why not be write the program for the Metro interface? And many of these ...

then PureBasic will not pure at all but HugeBasic with a download size 500+ MB, and it will lost its Fun and gymnastic feature. in addition this extra needs a new building with 100+ programmers, ..., etc

Louise wrote:...write a program for Windows tablets? ...support the .NET Framework? ...support COM objects? ...write the program for the Metro interface?

Hello Louise. Since Microsoft has officially abandoned Windows RT (read here), henceforth, Windows tablets would only be running Windows 8 and above; and that is supported by PureBasic.

If you need .NET and Metro support, perhaps you should be looking at VB.Net.

Modernizing PureBasic and bringing it to more platforms (Android, RaspPi, iOS, Win8/10 Apps, ...)
would require quite a few experienced developers, and a more open architecture. The PB guys hide
everything, and don't do a proper SDK for 3rd-party developers. In their eyes it is dangerous to release
informations about internals.

The dream of "PB everywhere" could only become reality, in my opinion, if the PB guys become more open
and supporting to 3rd-party developers.

Currently, if you want to support more than classic desktop, you have to look for other solutions.
New generation developers don't like to be limited to traditional desktop applications only,
and want to utilize Android, iOS, Win8/10 apps, RaspPi, etc., but the 3 or 4 PB developers simply
can't fulfill that wish.

A change is required. A change, that still brings money to the company 'Fantaisie Software' and
3rd-party developers enhancing the product and bringing it to more platforms. Unfortunateley I don't
know the final solution to this problem. Make it more open to 3rd parties, add support for more platforms,
and still make a living from it.


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Louise wrote:...why not support the .NET Framework?

Never. I don't know why anyone would ever want or need to use .Net. It's not needed and nothing but extra bulk.

J. Baker wrote:Never. I don't know why anyone would ever want or need to use .Net. It's not needed and nothing but extra bulk.

ALL modern applications on Windows use a safe Environment and .NET/C++.NET/C#/Windows Runtime.

No single MS AppStore application uses Win32 API, running on Win 8.1 Laptops/Tablets or HoloLens goggles.

Old Win32/Win95-style applications can only be linked to in the AppStore. They are not safe and un-checked apps.
Don't you get it, it's really that simple!?

.Net isn't "bulk" anymore since it's pre-installed and required on all modern Windows systems.
Also those few megabytes end-user runtime don't matter at all for the advantages you get.

Danilo wrote:I already invested much time and ideas into modernizing PB, without ever seeing a single Penny or Cent for it.

Still I hope you do get benefits of some other kind.
Please don't forget all the many members who are too spending their lifetime to support Purebasic in various ways. Keeping it vivid without getting noticable credits.

And yes - lacking credits also pay back ... in an unfortunate way.

Besides this, I don't think there's much time left for a small developer team, while trying to bring SpiderBasic on the way as a second serious mainstay. And what about those coming browser applications - couldn't they be made up to run on the yet unsupported devices? (just wondering)

greets ~ Vera

Danilo wrote:I already invested much time and ideas into modernizing PB, without ever seeing a single Penny or Cent for it.
Fred is the only one who has the benefits, and I simply don't like that. I already spent many month of my lifetime to
enhance the PB IDE, PB itself, and to make Fred's income become bigger. Everything for free!

Oh, come on... you may not having financially benefited, but you're acknowledged in the manual for your contributions:

PureBasic Manual wrote:Danilo Krahn: To have done an huge work on the editor and on the core command set, without forget the tons of nice suggestions about code optimization and size reduction... Thanks a lot.

Put it on your CV, that you contributed to the PureBasic programming language. That counts for something!

Danilo wrote:

J. Baker wrote:Never. I don't know why anyone would ever want or need to use .Net. It's not needed and nothing but extra bulk.

ALL modern applications on Windows use a safe Environment and .NET/C++.NET/C#/Windows Runtime.

No single MS AppStore application uses Win32 API, running on Win 8.1 Laptops/Tablets or HoloLens goggles.

Old Win32/Win95-style applications can only be linked to in the AppStore. They are not safe and un-checked apps.
Don't you get it, it's really that simple!?

I understand what you are saying but you missed my point. You can get the same job done without relying on .Net. Also, as far as I'm concerned, nothing is safe or secure on any OS.