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I recently bought a laptop with Yes, Win8
I upgraded to win8.1 but I like the Win-XP-pro to mush.

- Is there someone who installed Win XP-pro x64 an a new laptop 64 bits ?
- What are the results for the internal hardware recognitions ?
- BIOS ?
- Drivers ?

Thanks,

Sorry for my English...

Run away from XP fast if your laptop is connected to the internet!
It is full of security holes (M$ support end of life) and many hardware drivers are frozen and unsupported.

Hi Mark

Similar to you, but I needed Win8.1 to test apps for a customer using Win8.1. You can have a better-than-XP desktop via a 3rd party - I use I/O bit's Start Menu http://www.iobit.com/iobitstartmenu8.php. It is pretty good, though no doubt the commercial efforts are even better.

It won't be so long before Win8.2 is out, and that is expected to completely revert the OS, such that the 'desktop is king' for those that require it.

IdeasVacuum wrote:Hi Mark

Similar to you, but I needed Win8.1 to test apps for a customer using Win8.1. You can have a better-than-XP desktop via a 3rd party - I use I/O bit's Start Menu http://www.iobit.com/iobitstartmenu8.php. It is pretty good, though no doubt the commercial efforts are even better.

I notice that it says for Win8, does it also work good on 8.1 , cos it may cause problems with 8.1.

skywalk wrote:Run away from XP fast if your laptop is connected to the internet!
It is full of security holes (M$ support end of life) and many hardware drivers are frozen and unsupported.

Well said. I still use it on offline boxes with slip-streamed updates.

Regarding IOBit: FYI you're using something written by the lowest bidder.. IOBit doesn't have a single technical person on their staff and couldn't even tell you the name of the person who wrote their software that they are incapable of giving technical support for. Some long time users actually called them out on this on their own forums a long time ago after ASC was killing systems, and they admitted to it after they couldn't give updates or explain things..

I must admit I have been using ASC Pro for a few years now with no problems so far, and it seems to do a good job, one must be careful though, when using the un-installer as it can actually stuff the registry right up if not used carefully.
I am now trying out Win Optimizer 11, it is so much faster than ASC, and seems to point out more potential problems that I have never seen with ASC, and you are not limited to a subscription.

electrochrisso wrote:I must admit I have been using ASC Pro for a few years now with no problems so far, and it seems to do a good job, one must be careful though, when using the un-installer as it can actually stuff the registry right up if not used carefully.
I am now trying out Win Optimizer 11, it is so much faster than ASC, and seems to point out more potential problems that I have never seen with ASC, and you are not limited to a subscription.

It's usually the transparent disk operations that cause no-boot scenarios with ASC. I use CCLeaner on windows boxes.

I like the way MS handled 8.1, but I never had a problem right clicking the tile screen. The optimizations made it worth it.

tj1010 wrote:

electrochrisso wrote:I must admit I have been using ASC Pro for a few years now with no problems so far, and it seems to do a good job, one must be careful though, when using the un-installer as it can actually stuff the registry right up if not used carefully.
I am now trying out Win Optimizer 11, it is so much faster than ASC, and seems to point out more potential problems that I have never seen with ASC, and you are not limited to a subscription.

It's usually the transparent disk operations that cause no-boot scenarios with ASC. I use CCLeaner on windows boxes.

I like the way MS handled 8.1, but I never had a problem right clicking the tile screen. The optimizations made it worth it.

Yes, I use the free version of CCLeaner to do general cleanup of other peoples computers, I trust it, do you use the free version or the pro version.
I find that Win Optimizer really does a fantastic job at cleaning up the registry, and especially does a detailed registry defrag, best I have seen so far.

I encountered a laptop with Windows 8 that didn't even have all the drivers for Windows 7 available... Support for XP on newer hardware is quite bad, you often get it to run, but it wont necessarily take advantage of the hardware properly. I'm holding on to Windows 7 at least until version 8 have an official start menu... Actually probably still then, since it is free as in crackable, I have paid Microsoft enough...

If you take away all the rebuilt native binaries being built with newer more optimized compilers and the added security, w8 does suck. I also stick to 7 mostly for the hardware reasons too; mostly on old core2duo boxes except for haswell laptop.