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10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:58 am
by Kuron
Today (the 4th) is my 10 year anniversary with PB. I got it as a present for Christmas 2003, and made my first post here the 4th of January 2004. Tomorrow, the 5th of January is my birthday.

Over the past ten years PureBasic has grown, changed and continued to support new standards, as well as more platforms. Competing products have either died with the death of their author, the incarceration of their author, or because the author has abandoned his products to go play in the jungle with monkeys. PureBasic is still here, chugging along like The Little Engine That Could. Fred has a big announcement coming. My guess is ARM support. No matter what the announcement is, I know PureBasic will keep changing with the times and adapting to new standards. With the LTS, Fred & Freak have made a commitment to stability (which I love). PureBasic may have won the race simply by being the "last man standing", but it is the tenacity of Fred and Freak that have made PureBasic what it is today. What PureBasic is today, is simply the best, and most advanced, BASIC currently available. With PureBasic, there is no bloat, EXEs are small and fast. Besides being cross-platform, PureBasic has supported 64-bit for some time, while it always remained a pipe-dream for the competition (when there was competition).

So, today, I want to wish me and PB a Happy Ten Year Anniversary. I am proud of PB and what it has accomplished these past ten years I have known it and I look forward to the next ten years of our relationship. I also want to say Thank You to Fred and Freak for making the past ten years so wonderful and providing PureBasic and continuing to push it to new extremes. Also, a big thank you to the community who has always been extremely helpful.

The 5th of January (tomorrow) is my Birthday. I got my first taste of programming in the mid 70s on a Xerox Alto. I also played my first games on a computer (not a game console) in the mid 70s, on that same Alto. A multi-player Trek game and a multi-player 3D game. In 1979, I started programming on an Apple II, and this has been a passion that has continued and a passion that I tried to spread to others when I used to teach BASIC programming to kids in an after-school program. Things have really changed a lot since I started programming, but for the past ten years, the one constant that has been dependable is PureBasic. PureBasic has made adapting to (and supporting) new changes in APIs and operating systems as painless as possible.

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:48 am
by PB
It's a damn fine language. Best BASIC I've ever used.
I even dropped Visual Basic 5 for it, over a decade ago.
And happy birthday to you. :)

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:54 am
by dman
I wish I found PB instead of VB5.

@Kuron: Big Announcement? Can't wait!

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:38 am
by Kuron
PB wrote:And happy birthday to you. :)
Thank you.

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:01 am
by USCode
Kuron wrote:... I got my first taste of programming in the mid 70s on a Xerox Alto. I also played my first games on a computer (not a game console) in the mid 70s, on that same Alto. ...
Hi Kuron,
Where did you get a chance to work on the Alto, at a University?

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:50 am
by Kuron
USCode wrote: Hi Kuron,
Where did you get a chance to work on the Alto, at a University?
At my grandfather's office. He worked for the government and was involved in the space race. Kids under 12 did not have to be accompanied by a security guard, just the employee they belonged to. I lived with my grandparents as a little kid and my grandfather would often take me to work with him during my summer vacation. It was used as a reward-type of thing. As a little kid I had to get a gamma globulin injection every week and get my blood checked every week. During the school year if I was good when I got the shot and my blood drawn, my grandfather took me to 7-11 that night and bought me a large Slurpee. During summer vacation, if I was good on shot day, I got to go to work with him the next day and play on the computer.

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:58 am
by USCode
Kuron wrote:... Fred has a big announcement coming. My guess is ARM support. ...
Where did you hear about this announcement? Got a link?

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:04 am
by Demivec
USCode wrote:
Kuron wrote:... Fred has a big announcement coming. My guess is ARM support. ...
Where did you hear about this announcement? Got a link?
Link.

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:05 am
by Kuron
USCode wrote:
Kuron wrote:... Fred has a big announcement coming. My guess is ARM support. ...
Where did you hear about this announcement? Got a link?
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... 32#p433532

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:36 pm
by USCode
Kuron wrote:
USCode wrote:
Kuron wrote:... Fred has a big announcement coming. My guess is ARM support. ...
Where did you hear about this announcement? Got a link?
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... 32#p433532
Hmm, interesting! Thanks guys!

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:34 pm
by USCode
ARM support would be cool but not sure what that would mean for us as developers given PB currently only supports Windows, Linux and OS X ... what platforms would our ARM-compiled applications even run on?

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:37 am
by bembulak
Isn't Windows RT able to run on ARM (phones & tablets)? Linux is definitely able to run on ARM and iPhone/pod/pad AFAIK do so as well.

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:01 pm
by USCode
bembulak wrote:Isn't Windows RT able to run on ARM (phones & tablets)? Linux is definitely able to run on ARM and iPhone/pod/pad AFAIK do so as well.
I wasn't sure if ARM Windows RT tablets can run Win32 apps recompiled for ARM? I didn't think so, I thought it only ran apps with the new Win8 UI?
As far as iPad, etc. Fred would need to also add support for iOS, not just OSX, eh?
I don't know about any Linux tablets? Are there some that run vanilla Linux on ARM?

Re: AW: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:46 pm
by bembulak
I wasn't sure if ARM Windows RT tablets can run Win32 apps recompiled for ARM? I didn't think so, I thought it only ran apps with the new Win8 UI?
True, I didn't think about that!
Regarding iOS and OSX: I thought with Mavericks and iOS7 the codebase merges and it would be easier for developers to create programs for both platforms.

Re: 10 Year PB Anniversary Plus Bithday

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:59 pm
by bembulak
I'd liked to edit my post, but can't with Tapatalk. For the Linux question: I run Ubuntu Phone on my Nexus tablet. Sailfish from Jolla is a Linux too!