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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 7:28 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.

The question is too simple and can be interesant if every one of us say why he pick up Pure Basic. I hope every one tell us if he is somekind of beginner or comes from an other language looking for something in special.

My Answer:

I come from VB.
I dont have to tell anyone the problems that VB has, but its important to notice that the main reason why VB is used widely is b ecause its easy and offers a large community plenty on examples, articles, etc.

Then i was searching for something small, with no runtimes, speed and easy too.
Maybe PB dosent have those quantity of sourcecode available b ut a great community that always help eachother.

I have PowerBasic and its fast, small, etc. but the price for every update is huge and there is no a warm community.
I use BCX too and its a great tool but i cant see a reason to go there since im happy here.
I use other languages like PHP and i develop some tools combining them with PureBasic.

Now im planning to move definitively to PureBasic and forget about VB.

The only thing that im waiting to forget absolutely and definitively about VB is to learn how to call COM from PB.



Best Regards

Ricardo

Dont cry for me Argentina...

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:11 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Henrik.

Well.
Now i'am a old guy Asm-C64, Amos-Amiga, Turbopascal, Delphi 1,0 , Java & C++
Then i Gave up coulden't do what i wanted and did'nt have enough time to do it.

Then i found Blitz3D it was like good old Amos and i was happy for a while.
Funny enough, had i heard of PB but thought they ment PowerBasic ;o)
When i finally realized they ment PureBasic and tried it i was sold and i have'nt used Blitz ever since.

The latest development on the Blitz front have convinced me that it was a right decision i made.
At least Fred is: Human, very much alive, very clear about what he wants, listen and response to the community.

Bedst Regards
Henrik.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:43 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by tinman.

Coming from Blitz Basic 2, PureBasic was the only choice :)

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I used to be a nihilist but I don't believe in that any more.
(Win98first ed. + all updates, PB3.51, Ed3.53)

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:50 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Kale.

I've used python extensively to build GUI apps (1 converted for linux), but it was not really a complete solution because any computer that needed to run such apps needed python installing and maintaining. I read a book on ansi C++ (just core stuff) and thought that was far too complicated and long winded, i thought about VB but just didnt like the syntax (it just seemed too hacked and tacked together). I also like writing 3D stuff using DarkBasic and DBPro but too be quite honest DB is too slow and DBPro is way way to buggy (even arrays don't work!) so when someone mentioned PureBasic in a DB forum i checked it out. To be quite honest i had never even heard of it, but after a few days toying with the demo i thought all my prayers were answered! :) especially with the upcoming 3D stuff (DBPro's smallest .exe is 2.91Mb!) and if anything needs to go over to Linux, the option is there. The overal reasons for PB was, small, very fast, Win32 api and GREAT support from you guys especially Fred! buying PB has proved to be a great experience.

--Kale

In love with PureBasic! :)

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:35 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by redacid.

I used Blitz Basic (for Amiga) alot and Fred came in with his NLibs. On the Blitz-Mailing-List he announced a "full" Basic for Amiga with many advantages over Blitz Basic. So I was one of the first registered users of PB with Version 1.0 (I think - but I can't really remember). But I am *happy* since V3.0 (for Windows).

regards,
Redacid
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Viva Los Tioz!
registered user since V1.0

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:08 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Andre.

Coming also from BlitzBasic 2 (Amiga) I was also one of the first persons, who had a look on PureBasic (Amiga) first...

Regards
André

*** German PureBasic Support ***

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:33 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by VPureBasic.

Hi All,

Everything start for me a long time ago, when Amiga rules :wink:

I met Fred several times in an Amiga IRC Channel and Mailing List about BlitzBasic. After somes chats, we started together to write the main design and layout of what is called today... PureBasic.

At the beginning, the main goal was to create a new language to takes the place of BlitzBasic: its development was stop since 2 years and nobody can't get the sources to makes and upgrade version. We believed in the new PPC AMIGA processor to launch Phoenix... PureBasic first name...

After somes months of work, I badly loose my job. I stopped to use the internet. And, I come back a year later... Fred, did almost of the job alone. GREAT WORK FRED... I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN YOU...

Fred was and still a marvellous programmer. And, likes everyone, he needs somes encouragement for his hard work... He takes everyone as friend and, we are... a warm community...

We believe in your talent!

Roger

"The only PureBASIC limit is... our knowledge!"

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:15 am
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Jan.

I starting programming with C=64 BASIC in 1989. Later I switched to QBasic and - once I finally got it - to QuickBasic 4.5. In QuickBasic I wrote the GUI "Quick2" (one year) and later, in QB 7.1 (PDS) and using a ModeX lib the popular freeware action-adventure game "Shadow of Power". When I got an offer to develop a game for Windows I tried DarkBasic (which isn´t good), took a look at Powerbasic (which isn´t good for games) and finally found Blitz Basic. It was a great new language to code games and as it was hard to order from Germany and I thought other QB programmers would be interested in it as well I bought blitzbasic.de and started to sell it here. For a lot of reasons (which can be found at blitzbasic.de) I stopped to sell it and switched to PureBasic which I found in the news of qbasic.de. At first I didn´t know if it´s good (the editor was really ugly compared to Blitz´s in this times etc.), but after less than 3 days I noticed the enourmous power behind it and I don´t feel the wish to switch ever again. :)

Just for completness, here´s a list of other languages I tried: C, C++ (Borland, Visual and some free ones), Visual Basic, Java, Modula 2, Turbo Pascal 5,6 and 7, Delphi, Powerbasic (for DOS) and many more...

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:31 am
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Eddy.

BB3D Coming

- I've searched a way to create a WIN app quickly

:)BlitzBASIC - PureBASIC

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:11 am
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by TheBeck.

Commodore 128 basic around 1987 -- GW-Basic, ASIC 4.0 and 5.0 around 1995 (ms dos) -- PureBasic is actually the first serious windows programming I have ever done. It is the first language that gives me both the power I need and the ease of use for me to be able to pick it up in my very limited spare time. Programming for me is just a part time hobby competing with all my other hobbies and work. I tried learning Asm, C and Pascal in the past but just don't have the time. All the other basic languages for windows were a joke and unusable due to their many limitations. If it weren't for PureBasic I simply would not be programming today. Thanks Fred. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:20 am
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by freak.

I've been programming QuickBasic some time ago. By the time, i hit every limitation it had, I stopped programming applications for some time. I learned HTML, CSS and JavaScript instead. I had a short look on C, but the code looked to ugly, and I was too lazy to learn something new. I only heard bad things about VB, so that was never an option.

After I found PureBasic, It took me one day, to see, that it would be
the right choise.

Timo

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:22 am
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Stan.

Cheap, reliable, good support (stille miss the doubles though !)
good way to learn Win programming, good forum with many advanced
yet friendly programmers ...

Bests.

Stan.



Since I attended an MS course, my programs no longer have bugs ... just hidden "features" !! [ PB. registered user ]

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:26 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Num3.

Well I'm another Blitz Basic 2 coder for the amiga...
For some years I programmed in VB, but hsa soon has I found out PureBasic was so advanced for PC, I imediatelly changed

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Kind Regards
Rui Carvalho

Old programmers never die... They branch into a subroutine...

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:26 pm
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Denis.

Hi all,

I stardet to code in basic ...
And then with turbopascal and in asm too.

I found PB accidentally on a french downloading site. Then i try it and now, i liiiiiiiike it.

yes it's cheap, easy to understand (even if sometimes we loose right direction ...) powerfull (ASM code inline, possibilty to develop own libs in asm or C, API and a lot of structures), structured prog (while/wend repeat/until loop) and many other tools. A good community even if some guys don't realise what is Fred's work ! :)

If you need informations, Fred is here for individual infos.

Yes, as Roger tell us, We believe in your talent!

Thanks again, and Go on with PB.

Denis

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:38 am
by BackupUser
Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by SimpleMind.

Hi there,

The main reason I'm using PureBasic is its easyness in coding and it capability to create a Windows program in no time. Ofcourse as any other langauage, PB has its conventions you must obey but the concept is clear with a limited set of language elements and a huge function set.

Another aspect is that I must use VBA-Word for my profession and after 8 years, still I dislike the hierachical/object like structure of the language and terms as objects, methods, properties, etc. I discovered that there is no clarity and consistency in VBA. My mind isn't object oriented, my thinking proces isn't structured but chaotic. For me there is more structure in finding my function in a huge 1 dimensional list of functions than to search for a method or property in a f...ng object with a name that doesn't cover its payload and struggeling through tons of manuals to use it.
To keep in balance I program in PureBasic and feel a big relieve to see that there is an good alternative. I programmed several years in Euphoria, but the language had no easy interface towards Windows and it was interpreted, so it was time to look at another language: Icon, Python, Clean, C, C++, Pascal, Z80 assembler, all passed the revue and I stick with PureBasic and VBA. That a very good compliment for PB!


SimpleMind,

Perfection is reached not when there is no longer anything to add,
but when there is no longer anything to take away. (A. Saint-Exupery)

- Registered PureBasic Coder. -