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**Could a mod please lock this useless thread??? My rant has been taken over by other ranters!!! (hahaha,hohoh, I have fallen off the chair again)***

Talking to microsloth is like having your teeth drilled without anaesthetic and getting bent over because they think you are too stupid to follow their illogic.

I got my win 8 upgrade license last week through the super-cheap loophole ($15.00 as opposed to $400.00), no wonder their support is so bad!

Their upgrade advisor downloads your upgrade, checks it, tells you it didn't complete and deletes your download and then never works again citing 'upsecified errors'.

Their support tells me that my BIOS and motherboard drivers need to updated for their 'upgrade' to work???????? Despite me telling them my motherboard has had no updates in 2 years or more, they insist I should call ASUS tech support and *NOT* look at ASUS web site which tells me there are no upgrades!!!

WHAT A LOAD OF UTTER BULL****

Their betas upgrade my sytem fine (I was on the test program). Their Business enterprise version upgraded my system fine. Hell, the only version that doesn't upgrade my system is their 'upgrade' version which I paid for!!!


Does anyone have a link to a Windows 8 Upgrade ISO 64 bit that I can download because I have a license I paid for?? MS are a bunch of DIC******.

Not sure Win8 desktop is really worth having before it's Service Pack 2..........

This is where to get the Iso: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18 ... reate.html

IdeasVacuum wrote:Not sure Win8 desktop is really worth having before it's Service Pack 2..........

This is where to get the Iso: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18 ... reate.html

You can't get the iso from there. You have to run the "Windows8-Setup.exe" which is the same as the Upgrade advisor exe without the upgrade check.

It has exactly the same problem, will not download, dies with the unspecified error. Tried that first before the upgrade one.

I need an actual *ISO* file link like I found for the enterprise version that can be safely downloaded with a normal download manager.

The enterprise version I have is a time limited file that cannot be activated by my purchased ugrade key or i'd use that because the software works fine on a blank hard drive! NO BS BIOS upgrade sh** needed.

dies with the unspecified error

Could that be because Win8 is already on the PC and it only expects to find Win7?

IdeasVacuum wrote:

dies with the unspecified error

Could that be because Win8 is already on the PC and it only expects to find Win7?

No, this is a windows 7 pc, both those programs (upgrade and iso creator) are designed to upgrade a machine from windows xp and up to windows 7.

The upgrade exe was downloaded for those conditions, no windows 8 running yet.

To demonstrate that my computer does not need bios upgrades, drivers and other rubbish mentioned by the drones, I whacked in a blank hard drive and installed the beta of 8,a release of 8 and the enterprise edition of 8. All worked fine.

I cloned my windows 7 drive to the blank, booted up from that and proceeded to update that from the enteprise edition of 8. That worked also.

Their upgrade programs are flawed.

Fangbeast wrote:Does anyone have a link to a Windows 8 Upgrade ISO 64 bit that I can download because I have a license I paid for?? MS are a bunch of DIC******.

You can use the license with any Windows 8 Pro ISO.

Joakim Christiansen wrote:

Fangbeast wrote:Does anyone have a link to a Windows 8 Upgrade ISO 64 bit that I can download because I have a license I paid for?? MS are a bunch of DIC******.

You can use the license with any Windows 8 Pro ISO.

Thanks but I bit the bullet.

Grabbed that blank drive again, whacked it in.

Installed my windows 7 ultimate (yet again), activated it. Did not add/install/update anything, absolutely nothing!!

Threw the upgrade program onto that drive from a meory key and ran it. 3 hours later, the blo*** think finished and allowed me to save an ISO file this time.

5 gig (half of that wasted on the first download), 8 hours out of my life and more grey hairs. Now I just need to see if I can reproduce a installable flash drive from the hidden ESD directory than contains all the files.

The ISO is burning as I type. YAY!! Now I can go back to releasing another version of my program:):)

Fangbeast wrote:The ISO is burning as I type. YAY!! Now I can go back to releasing another version of my program:):)

Congrats!

But who wants W8 anyway?
I think Microsoft did some wrong decisions while designing it and in protest I'll stick to Windows 7 for now.

Windows 8 has a ton of new features under the hood, worth upgrading just for that.

I use Start8 and my system looks like Windows 7

More info here.
http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... windows-8/

spacebuddy wrote:Windows 8 has a ton of new features under the hood, worth upgrading just for that.

Tested Windows-Eight on two different machines and didn't find any features worth upgrading.
I really tried to find at least something...

spacebuddy wrote:Windows 8 has a ton of new features under the hood, worth upgrading just for that.

I use Start8 and my system looks like Windows 7

More info here.
http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... windows-8/

can you give a brief summary?
until they give an option to have a classic desktop interface I am not upgrading, I know about the third party Start's but that should not be necessary .

jack wrote:until they give an option to have a classic desktop interface I am not upgrading, I know about the third party Start's but that should not be necessary .

As far as I know it's not possible.

Let me rephrase that: Technically it would be possible but the license of Windows-Eight forbids to go straight into the classic desktop.

This being said: Any applications that are launched on start-up need to enable the operating system to start into the new user interface (Metro). From there users can switch into the classic desktop.

Applications like Start8 are the only way to simulate a Windows7 user interface.

This is what I read awhile ago, but don't remember where...
Hope my information is not outdated

Rule # 1 for Windows: Never upgrade, always do a new clean install. Eventually an 'upgrade' is going to either bite you in the butt or cause issues later when you swap machines and really need a full version and not an upgrade version.

Rule # 2 for Windows: See rule # 1.

Most of those "show me the desktop" applications for Windows 8 are really just sending key presses upon start up, they simply automate what the user can do.

It is possible to go manually directly to the classic desktop (AKA a Windows 7 style desktop). Put the desktop tile on the upper left of the Metro screen and hold 'Enter' key briefly after entering username password and you can go directly to the desktop.

There is also this which is not too bad really > http://www.iobit.com/iobitstartmenu8.php and you get the windows 7 start menu and button, and can bypass the Win 8 "Metro" screen and go straight to the desktop, its free too

I'm still running Windows XP because it works. I have Windows 7 that I got through my employer supplied MSDN account, and I'll use it if I ever need to reinstall Windows, but as long as my Windows XP installation keeps working, I'll keep using it because Windows 7 doesn't offer anything new that I want or need enough to justify tearing down a perfectly good set up to go through installing it and then reloading everything I need.

It seems to me that Microsoft is stuck in an endless loop, ever since Windows ME, every second or third release is yet another unpopular flop, next came Windows Vista, and now it's Windows 8.

Joakim Christiansen wrote:But who wants W8 anyway?

Yeah, I tried Windows 8 in a virtual machine and came away thinking, what a piece of crap that Metro user interface was. The fact that the only way to get rid of it was to apply some 3rd party hack to Windows made it a no go for me. Even though I could have gotten a free copy from my employer provided MSDN account, I didn't bother because I knew I'd never use it. Yuck! <shudders>

jack wrote:until they give an option to have a classic desktop interface I am not upgrading

Same here.

SFSxOI wrote:Rule # 1 for Windows: Never upgrade, always do a new clean install. Eventually an 'upgrade' is going to either bite you in the butt or cause issues later when you swap machines and really need a full version and not an upgrade version.

Rule # 2 for Windows: See rule # 1.

I believe this is true for any operating system, not just Windows.