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stuff just arrived

asus m5a97 r2
16gb 1600mhz ddr3
120gb ocz solid 3 sata 3 ssd
amd fx8 - 8120 black edition ocing to 4ghz

best part is the ssd last week i got an ocz vertex plus sata2 120gb ssd £42.99 offer price. put it in my i3 laptop what a difference it makes so snappy would absolutely recommend to anyone who hasnt tried on an ssd

best thing ive bought in years

Zebuddi.

Wow you bought a Bulldozer...

I suppose if you got it really really cheap then it's not that bad but it's still so inefficient.

Yep £250 the lot ran q6600 for last 3-4 years boxed all the old parts in a new case and new £30 asus MB sold it £200 so stands me £100. its so quite i have too check tis on lol sooo fast and ultra responsive

installed win 7 64 literally in 10 mins start to fin and desktop this will keep me happy for the next 2-3 years

well happy with it. and ssd`s are mint lol really recommend them !!!

Zebuddi

I would recommend against using OCZ solid state drives, they have faulty controllers and faulty firmware. More then 10% of them burn out in under a year. If you want a top of the line drive get a Plextor M5P or a Samsung 830 series SSD. Right now the M5P is the best SSD on the market. Tho if you can get a 12xGB OCZ Vertex for like $60 then its obviously worth grabbing one.

yes iv`e seen the reviews although they are not as bad now and new firmware, but both the one`s i have now are ocz vertex plus 120gb £43.00 and ocz solid 3 120gb £53.00 have three years warranties so it they burn out ill be getting replacements

was just after a good responsive system even the sata2 vertex plus is very fast and no head thrashing spinning up spinning down

to be truthful i`d never go bk to mechanical drives had run a q6600 system for last 3-4 was time for an upgrade

Zebuddi.

You still need mechanicals for mass storage though. SSD's are too costly per GB

I`ll keep buying them when the deals are on !!!

Zebuddi.

Zebuddi123 wrote:yes iv`e seen the reviews although they are not as bad now and new firmware, but both the one`s i have now are ocz vertex plus 120gb £43.00 and ocz solid 3 120gb £53.00 have three years warranties so it they burn out ill be getting replacements

was just after a good responsive system even the sata2 vertex plus is very fast and no head thrashing spinning up spinning down

to be truthful i`d never go bk to mechanical drives had run a q6600 system for last 3-4 was time for an upgrade

Zebuddi.

Yea the 0.1ms seek time makes a huge difference when it comes to loading data. You will find most game maps will load near instantly as well, giving you that few seconds jump start on the level before other players Hard drives have been the ultimate bottleneck for computers since the 90's. SSD's finally alleviate that bottleneck, and are starting to become reasonably priced. I for one will never fill a 128GB SSD, I don't put much on my computer other then messenger and a few games. I'm saving up to pick one up so I can experience the speed myself.

@ warmonger you just missed one last week end 256gb forget which make sata 2 256mb write 350mb read £96 on a deal was humming n rrr-ing my son talked me into the 120gb ocz @£42-43 wished i got the 256mb
but im really happy with the ocz so far

systems running at 4ghz put the cooler on i bought but dont think its as good as the asus silent sqaure evo i had on the q6600 so im gonna see if i can fitt it in the new rig, its computing on a different level

its only taken me 25+ years to get a system that just does what i ask even under full stress test with prime95 running a click on the mouse and its does what ever i asked

Zebuddi.

moogle wrote:Wow you bought a Bulldozer...

I suppose if you got it really really cheap then it's not that bad but it's still so inefficient.

The Bulldozers got very poor reviews because most of the benchmarks done at their release just happened to be performed with
programs that weren't compiled with AMD specific optimizations. Microsoft VS and Intel compilers didn't have support for them
so it's no wonder they performed very poorly in the benchmarks. As a consequence you can now buy a bulldozer for dirt cheap.
The Intel i5 i7 may have better performance on the whole but the difference is mostly insignificant when it comes to multi tasking.
If you're on a budget the Bulldozers are actually a great upgrade option.

idle wrote:

moogle wrote:Wow you bought a Bulldozer...

I suppose if you got it really really cheap then it's not that bad but it's still so inefficient.

The Bulldozers got very poor reviews because most of the benchmarks done at their release just happened to be performed with
programs that weren't compiled with AMD specific optimizations. Microsoft VS and Intel compilers didn't have support for them
so it's no wonder they performed very poorly in the benchmarks. As a consequence you can now buy a bulldozer for dirt cheap.
The Intel i5 i7 may have better performance on the whole but the difference is mostly insignificant when it comes to multi tasking.
If you're on a budget the Bulldozers are actually a great upgrade option.

Bulldozers single thread performance is worse then Phenom II's. With 90% if not more of your software being only single threaded this impacts peoples outlook on the processor big time. Right now a Phenom II 955 BE beats out all FX processors in single thread performance. The only time a Bulldozer shines is when its overclocked above 4.8GHz. Which a Phenom II 955 BE overclocked to 4.0GHz will still give it a run for its money. The strongest processor AMD has to date for the enthusiast platform is the Phenom II x6 1100T (discontinued). They are launching Piledriver on October so expect Bulldozer to quickly phase out. Prices are already dropping big time (FX-6100 $110).

Yes that's true, you wouldn't really conciser an FX an upgrade to a Phenom II
At the end of the day if you're running an ancient single core system and you want to upgrade it
an FX at ~$150 vs a Phenom II at ~250 vs i5 at ~ $350, you're not really going to split hairs about it.
The performance difference is going to be significant regardless of which CPU you get.
Also another factor that skewed the benchmark figures for the FX's was the task scheduler in windows 7
the patch supposedly increased the FX performance up to 15%

idle wrote:Yes that's true, you wouldn't really conciser an FX an upgrade to a Phenom II
At the end of the day if you're running an ancient single core system and you want to upgrade it
an FX at ~$150 vs a Phenom II at ~250 vs i5 at ~ $350, you're not really going to split hairs about it.
The performance difference is going to be significant regardless of which CPU you get.
Also another factor that skewed the benchmark figures for the FX's was the task scheduler in windows 7
the patch supposedly increased the FX performance up to 15%

With Windows 8 the FX series is still some of the worst processors to ever leave AMD's production line. Even on the new OS, Phenom II wipes the floor with FX. None of my sources are skewed, I can personally guarantee you that 100%. I would argue over the cost of each as well, as the Phenom II x4 955 BE is only $84.99 on Newegg right now. Far off the $189.99 price tag for a FX-8150. Undoubtably the FX-8150 will be a better performer if you overclock it like crazy against a stock 955. Tho like said a Phenom II 955 has a sweet spot at around 3.8-4.0GHz that all of them like to run at OC'd. And at 4.0GHz a 955 will give even a big boy like the FX-8150 a run for its money. AMD slapping on 4 extra integer cores, and calling it a true 8 core is what ruined them. As for the task scheduler patch, it was nothing more then hype just like bulldozer. The patch increases performance 1-2% in the BEST scenario with multi threaded applications. Tho only place Bulldozer is making its mark is people who number crunch, such as Folding@Home. Having them 8 cores really is a monster in multi-threaded situations. Tho like said with most of your software and games only supporting up to a quad core (except a few new games like BF3 etc). Them extra cores don't really even matter all too much. From speculation, disabling the 4 extra cores and cranking the main 4 cores up to a possible 5.0GHz improves benchmark results.

If you can still find a Phenom II cheaper than an FX that would be a better option for a budget upgrade
since you can unlock the additional cores on them but it's often a case of what's available at the time of purchase.
I wouldn't call the Bulldozers a fail, they're designed for multi tasking and they do that well
As for skewed benchmark results, unless the test programs have been optimized in asm or compiled with GCC
there won't be any automatic optimizations for the FX. Microsoft is an Intel partner, I doubt they'll include
AMD specific optimizations into their compiler any time soon.
Fx vs Phenom II, the Phenom's have the legs over them for some things but it's not really that significant.
For the spare cash laying around curious, they have over clocked the FX to 8Ghz!
The entertainment value alone is probably worth melting your cpu to see what it can do at that speed!
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-FX-8 ... 2068.shtml
Sure if you predominately want to play games the FX doesn't really look like it cuts the mustard compared to the Phemom II
but then if you really wanted to play games you'd go with an intel unless you're on a beer budget, ie more beer for me!

Well guys the phemon 2 is faster would you notice that in every day use ? if you play high end games maybe you`d loose some frame rates I for one dont play game unless its chess but that dont count right ! its so my system last me another 2-3 years in fact in 4-5 years it will still kill every thing i chuck at it and still be 100% responsive and that makes me happy i could have quite easily bought an i7 3960x on offer £787.00 so on and so forth. i looked at upgrading my cpu to the best that would fit my 775 mb £190 its like buying ridiculously over priced mac hardware my first foray in the apple world a 2.53 ghz mac mini £550 for what you get its rediculous ( no offence apple guys).

Anyways if you not a massive games player i would recommend one all day long!!! , day 2 of my new system and i`m loving it

Zebuddi.