PureBasic Forums - English

Very crazy. Probably has a name for her car, too, and talks to it. She's just insane, as is anyone who thinks machines deserve rights.

Never heard about that website until now. Read some of the stories and it seems like the whole site uses internet memes in their articles.
It reads like a trollish news media, another The Onion.

Nituvious wrote:Never heard about that website until now. Read some of the stories and it seems like the whole site uses internet memes in their articles.
It reads like a trollish news media, another The Onion.

Nor had I - the link was in an article in a email newsletter from either ZD Net or PC Mag - don't remember which.

Correction - it was from Computer World

Not stupid at all, reflexion is needed to all fields of our life and society. What are rights ? Why rights should only be for mankind ? And for robots, one couldn't see the reference to I, robot from Asimov

djes wrote:Why rights should only be for mankind ?

The fact that you even have to ask... OMG. Would you give your PC monitor rights? It's the same thing!

You imagine obvious things as set and fixed. But all the concepts of this world have been worked and reworked from the very beginning. An animal has rights, a human being has rights, in some countries, not the same being a woman and a man for example, nor a black/white/disabled/poor/rich... Don't consider obvious things as acquired, there'll always being people trying getting more, from you, at the end. An object is an object till ... what ? When aren't you -yourself- an object ? Because you're thinking ? You're -believing- you're thinking. What proof have you you're thinking ? What proof are you giving to others that you're thinking ? Others are who ?

You're insane.

MachineCode wrote:You're insane.

Sure ! As guys who did laws

Animals do not have any rights, they are food. The great ape (humans) is just an animal. Just food for other animals... may it be the worms at the very end.
It is an circular flow. May Buddha be with you!

This article has some interesting points which might sound silly today but could get very important in the near future. djes also throwed in some thoughts to consider.

On the other hand a few narrow-minded people on this forum always amaze me...

Danilo wrote:Animals do not have any rights, they are food. The great ape (humans) is just an animal. Just food for other animals... may it be the worms at the very end.
It is an circular flow. May Buddha be with you!

Something interesting : http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com ... gal-voice/

djes wrote:You imagine obvious things as set and fixed. But all the concepts of this world have been worked and reworked from the very beginning. An animal has rights, a human being has rights, in some countries, not the same being a woman and a man for example, nor a black/white/disabled/poor/rich... Don't consider obvious things as acquired, there'll always being people trying getting more, from you, at the end. An object is an object till ... what ? When aren't you -yourself- an object ? Because you're thinking ? You're -believing- you're thinking. What proof have you you're thinking ? What proof are you giving to others that you're thinking ? Others are who ?

"In the beginning..." man had god-given rights.

djes wrote:Something interesting : http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com ... gal-voice/

Governments and organized societies can give legal standing to animals or 'things' if they want to but it doesn't make any sense if someone has to speak for them. If someone is speaking for them then it is really the speaker that has the legal standing and not the animal or the object.


Returning to the thread topic and the contents of the first post, the woman is crazy.

djes wrote:You imagine obvious things as set and fixed. But all the concepts of this world have been worked and reworked from the very beginning. An animal has rights, a human being has rights, in some countries, not the same being a woman and a man for example, nor a black/white/disabled/poor/rich... Don't consider obvious things as acquired, there'll always being people trying getting more, from you, at the end. An object is an object till ... what ? When aren't you -yourself- an object ? Because you're thinking ? You're -believing- you're thinking. What proof have you you're thinking ? What proof are you giving to others that you're thinking ? Others are who ?

It's called Neuroscience, look it up some time.

Seriously, did you just compare the human brain to an inanimate object?
Computers do things because we TELL (program) them to. If you simply turn it on and apply power, nothing will happen. That is the antithesis of being alive, much less sentient or cognitively aware.

Human rights are not god given. Maybe for religious people. But in reality human rights are given to humanity by humans. They thought of them and they wrote them down and they enforce them.
I dont want to offend any religious people, i do respect most religions. But you have to agree that human rights was been invented by humans to ensure a working society.
We decide what or who gets rights. And we do that to make a peacefull society possible.

Zach wrote: Seriously, did you just compare the human brain to an inanimate object?
Computers do things because we TELL (program) them to. If you simply turn it on and apply power, nothing will happen. That is the antithesis of being alive, much less sentient or cognitively aware.

Thats the status now.
But this can and most likly will change. If true AI is discovered and programs/maschines can think, have needs and wants, the whole situation is different. If we dont give them rights, they will take the rights sooner or later.