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Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:37 am
by Fangbeast
Has anyone done any programming on/for Windows 8 tablets with PB?

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:04 am
by Warmonger
No, but its safe to say it will not work. At least until Fred makes a ARM version of PureBasic. In which I highly doubt he will giving the platforms the team have to cover at the moment. I guess if you wanna really code for tablet, you might as well use Visual Studio so you can utilize the new WinRT API.

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:19 am
by IdeasVacuum
First Win8 tablets are Intel/AMD. Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2, Microsoft Surface and Samsung's first tablet all run on Intel Core i processors. So, it depends on the type of app you want to put on them - classic Windows is still there.

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:55 am
by Fangbeast
IdeasVacuum wrote:First Win8 tablets are Intel/AMD. Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2, Microsoft Surface and Samsung's first tablet all run on Intel Core i processors. So, it depends on the type of app you want to put on them - classic Windows is still there.
Thanks, that's what I needed to know. A friend wants some work done for some traffic management and thought about Android first (Which neither of us know) and then the win 8 tablets.

I can run windows 8 in a vm to test some simple stuff and when he gets the tablet, see how far I can push my luck.

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:03 pm
by Warmonger
IdeasVacuum wrote:First Win8 tablets are Intel/AMD. Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2, Microsoft Surface and Samsung's first tablet all run on Intel Core i processors. So, it depends on the type of app you want to put on them - classic Windows is still there.
Some tablets, but most tablets are ARM based. If you are talking about the few i386 based ones, then yes Win32 still exists and everything will work the same. If you have any more questions about Windows 8 let me know.

c ya,
Warmonger

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:18 pm
by Primoz128
Just forget about Windows 8... really that's the best idea... Win 8 gona be a fail... they said it's gonig to be the same for EVERY platform including PC, which makes it a horribly un optimised OS and is not gona be compatible with anything.

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:56 pm
by IdeasVacuum
Some tablets, but most tablets are ARM based.
That's only true because of the recent history of Tablets. Now Microsoft has a renewed interest in them, we can expect more tabs to be Intel/AMD in the future, if Win8 is a success (it sounds as though it may 'do a Vista').

Most Users that do not use Tablets, especially business Users, will appreciate the MS approach because a keyboard and mouse is still properly catered for and sensible things such as USB ports are right there from the start. Business Users also need to know that their current investment in software is not going to be wasted, so they will be picking the Intel/AMD hardware every time - MS have realized that this section of the tab market is there for the taking, that's why they are in.

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:32 am
by ultralazor
Warmonger wrote:No, but its safe to say it will not work. At least until Fred makes a ARM version of PureBasic. In which I highly doubt he will giving the platforms the team have to cover at the moment. I guess if you wanna really code for tablet, you might as well use Visual Studio so you can utilize the new WinRT API.
Arm with IOS or Android is simple, SDK intermediate compiler.. W8 for ARM uses epic constructs and PE additions cause they only want people using MSIL based .NET like C#; you can do C/C++ and other by wrapping this stuff after a lot of reverse engineering though. Basically yeah you are right though

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:58 pm
by fsw
I thought WindowsRT only runs on ARM :?

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:35 am
by Fangbeast
Good grief, this topis is still going?? What did I start here????

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:36 am
by fsw
Hey Fangles, is the picture in your avatar current :?:
You didn't change a bit in all these years :mrgreen:

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:21 am
by Fangbeast
Hey Fangles, is the picture in your avatar current :?:
Yes, I can't use my normal face because of what srod's used sheep did to me. It's terrible what he does to those poor innocent animals that he stole from Idle.
You didn't change a bit in all these years :mrgreen:
Wait till I go through radiotherapy in 2 months, that will make me glow and I will really change!!:):)

Re: Windows 8 tablet programming?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:49 am
by Warmonger
fsw wrote:I thought WindowsRT only runs on ARM :?
Windows RT is what they are calling the ARM version of Windows 8. Which all tablets will run, except of course the Surface Pro (which is a mutt tablet). Short and sweet like I already stated, PureBasic will not compile apps that will run on Windows RT. You will have to use Visual Studio 2012.