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scrolling pixel art

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:30 pm
by J. Baker
Is there a way to scroll pixel art without the slight blur effect of an lcd? Integer values didn't seem to help and don't know if it is even possible with a 60hz refresh or not.

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:57 pm
by IdeasVacuum
Hi J.Baker

51 views and no responses, so may be I'm not the only one who doesn't know precisely what scrolling pixel art is? :oops:

Perhaps a working code snippet that demonstrates the issue?

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:55 pm
by MachineCode
I only viewed it because the subject made it sound like a viewable demo, but it turned out to be a coding question.

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:20 pm
by djes
I don't understand the question. If you have a lcd screen with a typical blur effect when scrolling (due to pixel remanency), how could software suppress it ?

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:06 pm
by Zach
Yeah, I don't think you can overcome this kind of hardware issue with software.

This all comes down to the response time of the display device

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:02 am
by J. Baker
Yeah, wasn't sure if it was because of the lcd display or not. Or if there was a coding method to alter how the sprite gets displayed to adjust for a sharper scrolling effect for pixel style art. Will look into it more but it may not be solvable due to lcd technology itself.

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:01 am
by jesperbrannmark
You are on a MBA just like me.
I cant watch a movie or play games like Left4Dead etc because of this effect. What is strange is that even if I connect it to a external source I get the same effect on the external display. Spent hours trying to find out if there is a way around it but havnt found anything.
On my girlfriends MacBook Pro this doesnt happen.

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:22 am
by J. Baker
jesperbrannmark wrote:You are on a MBA just like me.
I cant watch a movie or play games like Left4Dead etc because of this effect. What is strange is that even if I connect it to a external source I get the same effect on the external display. Spent hours trying to find out if there is a way around it but havnt found anything.
On my girlfriends MacBook Pro this doesnt happen.
Interesting. I guess it just a per lcd display thing then. I do know that some have better response times. These MBA's must have a high ms delay or something.

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:24 pm
by Zach
jesperbrannmark wrote:You are on a MBA just like me.
I cant watch a movie or play games like Left4Dead etc because of this effect. What is strange is that even if I connect it to a external source I get the same effect on the external display. Spent hours trying to find out if there is a way around it but havnt found anything.
On my girlfriends MacBook Pro this doesnt happen.

You sure there isn't a motion blur effect in the game that needs to be turned off?

I hate that shit.. Seems to be the new "thing" to do with games.

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:07 pm
by jesperbrannmark
Actually I dont see it that much in games, rather in full screen video (or in window video for that sake). I use VLC and spent hours trying to find a fix for it. Either processor, gfx chip or screen creates this. The gfx chip is strong (320M), while the processor should be enough so at the moment I belive its a screen thing. (but that would not explain it following to external source, now would it?)

Re: scrolling pixel art

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:43 pm
by Zach
I won't claim to know how the hardware works in this case..

But I suppose if it were being filtered through the LCD's own processor before being output that might have something to do with it?