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We move to c++ :(

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:31 pm
by Brujah
We wait since years now for purebasic to work well on linux again but nothing is happening.
We can't live with a compiler where not even the mouse works in fullscreen.
Computers with more than 4 gig do not work at all with the 64 bit version of the compiler.
But that is very often a reason to buy a 64 bit machine at all.

So we decided to put a lot of work to escape an unsupported compiler.
And we did not take that decicion lighty as we basically like purebasic for its simplicity and invested years of development in our sourcecode.
But we fear that those bugs will simply never be solved so we have no other choice :(

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:19 pm
by swan
Bye ...

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:55 pm
by xorc1zt
u did the right choice, purebasic can't afford a professional project. officially there are only 2 devs on purebasic and they focus on the libs, not on the language himself so how u can even expect a decent cross platform language ? top of that the linux version play the second fiddle. seriously i could not advice purebasic to develop anythings on linux.

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:17 am
by idle
maybe the dev team can take a look at GLFW instead of what ever they're using for OpenGL full screen and windowed

http://www.glfw.org/license.html

would probably solve some issues.

a quick demo linux
http://www.idlearts.com/glfw.zip

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:05 am
by xorc1zt
GLFW doesn't return the window handle and you can't add a specific sized opengl context to a custom window with this lib. there a no way to make a window with a GUI like this one

Image

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:50 am
by Danilo
Brujah wrote:But we fear that those bugs will simply never be solved so we have no other choice :(
Don't be sad. A man has to make decisions: You could just wait or you move on.
Although not easy, you decided to move on now. You are a man of action, life's too short for waiting.

It's a good sign for your personal career and future. Good luck and welcome to the new world of boundless possibilities! ;)

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:42 am
by Shield
swan wrote:Bye ...
The good old "be with us or against us" mentality...

@Brujah
Good luck, I hope you still can use your existing code base in some ways...

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:06 pm
by swan
@ Shield
One chooses the right tools for the job. Choose wisely.
Don't take a swipe while walking out the door though.
Surely no one uses just one language for every project - do they ?

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:43 am
by Kuron
Brujah wrote:We wait since years now for purebasic to work well on linux again but nothing is happening.
We can't live with a compiler where not even the mouse works in fullscreen.
Computers with more than 4 gig do not work at all with the 64 bit version of the compiler.
But that is very often a reason to buy a 64 bit machine at all.

So we decided to put a lot of work to escape an unsupported compiler.
And we did not take that decicion lighty as we basically like purebasic for its simplicity and invested years of development in our sourcecode.
But we fear that those bugs will simply never be solved so we have no other choice :(
Best wishes to you. I will follow your excellent game no matter what you use to write it.

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:47 am
by Kuron
swan wrote:Don't take a swipe while walking out the door though.
He didn't. He merely stated the reasons for his decision.

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:06 am
by auser
Danilo wrote:You could just wait or
Wait for what? Did somebody ever said that it would get better or fixed? Did somebody ever showed a serious interest in doing so (whenever?). Waiting just makes sense if there is a good reason to hope. But if the same failures still occur after many years what would you hope about? For a comment in the bug-thread? A sollution? Basically I think that "linux" should be dropped from the list of platfroms on the mainpage. It's misleading. It's more a "alpha/beta-version" for many years now.

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:42 am
by Shield
auser wrote:Did somebody ever said that it would get better or fixed?
To be fair...PB improved over the years. I started with version 3.20 and it was horrible compared
to what PB is now. The biggest issue is obivously the lack of manpower in the development,
but only Fred can change that.

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:58 am
by Little John
Shield wrote:To be fair...PB improved over the years.
Absolutely!
Shield wrote:The biggest issue is obivously the lack of manpower in the development,
but only Fred can change that.
And Fred will change that in a few weeks. :D

Regards, Little John

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:33 am
by Shield
He will have more time, that's true, but he still can't work on multiple things at the same time.
Also, eight eyes see more than just two. :)

Re: We move to c++ :(

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:49 pm
by Little John
Shield wrote:but he still can't work on multiple things at the same time.
Are you sure? :-) There are people who can do that, maybe Fred is one of them. But that's not the question here anyway.

Much more important is, that WE ALL can support Fred, when he is working full time on PureBasic.
c4s writes, that 160 people have participated so far in his current poll. Now imagine that these 160 people donate only 10 EUR each. That's not much money for each single person (about 3 beers in a pub here), but Fred would get 1600 EUR, which is a considerable amount of money. That would help Fred working full time on PureBasic, and that's what we all appreciate, no?

Regards, Little John