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Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:52 pm**

5 Minor features that users would like to get

1. #PB_Integer with FillMemory
--- [1] 21 Dec 2011 * Not answered *

2. Allow multidimensional arrays in structures
--- [1] 02 Feb 2012 * Not answered *
--- [2] 10 Sep 2006 * Not answered *
--- [3] 28 Jun 2005 * Not answered *
--- [4] 28 Apr 2004 * Not answered *

3. Multi-lines statement
--- [1] 12 Dec 2011 * Not answered *
--- [2] 01 Dec 2010 * Not answered *
--- [3] 21 Oct 2009 * Not answered *
--- [4] 03 Jan 2009 * Not answered *
--- [5] 13 Apr 2008 * Not answered *
--- [6] 15 Jun 2003 * Fred answered *

4. Multi-lines comments
--- [1] 24 Apr 2005 * Not answered *
--- [2] 26 Feb 2005 * Not answered *
--- [3] 16 Mar 2004 * Not answered *
--- [4] 11 Nov 2003 * Not answered *
--- [5] 15 Jun 2003 * Not answered *

5. OOP
--- [1] 23 Feb 2011 * Not answered *
--- [2] 21 May 2009 * Not answered *
--- [3] 31 Jan 2007 * Freak answered *
--- [4] 30 May 2006 * Not answered *
--- [5] 03 Mar 2005 * Not answered *
--- [6] 30 May 2006 * Not answered *
--- [6] 04 May 2003 * Fred, Freak answered *

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:12 pm**

Hello,

For the feature :

1. Just add #PB_Float, #PB_Double as well

2. Multi-dimension array like in pure C --> float MyArray[50][3]

3. Multi-lines statement --> Sorry completely useless

4. Multi-lines comment --> Sorry completely useless and adding a comma on each line just do the tricks so why wasting time on this while more important feature are badly needed ?

5. OOP ---> OH NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN ! I think you should go to read this : http://www.hpquest.com/techlord/apps/AOBPwB3D/

Best regards
Guimauve

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:23 pm**

Another thread when all these requests already have one or more than one ?

Goooooood.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:32 pm**

6. 5 Minor features that users would like to get
--- [1] 02 Feb 2012 * Not answered *

Also another thead will not change the situation.

The topics have all been discussed several times.
There is no necessity for the involvement of these things!

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:33 pm**

Guimauve wrote:3. Multi-lines statement --> Sorry completely useless

Being able to place a statement on multiple lines is one of the most essential features
for keeping codes readable. Some statements in PB just made me sick and splitting
them up "manually" using multiple variables etc. was just yet another work around
that shouldn't be needed.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:51 pm**

Guimauve wrote:Hello,

For the feature :

1. Just add #PB_Float, #PB_Double as well

2. Multi-dimension array like in pure C --> float MyArray[50][3]

3. Multi-lines statement --> Sorry completely useless

4. Multi-lines comment --> Sorry completely useless and adding a comma on each line just do the tricks so why wasting time on this while more important feature are badly needed ?

5. OOP ---> OH NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN ! I think you should go to read this : http://www.hpquest.com/techlord/apps/AOBPwB3D/

Best regards
Guimauve

as i already said those are minor features except for the OOP one.

Multi lines statement is crucial for the code readability
example with this C code

Code: Select all

// Start the child process. 
    if( !CreateProcess( NULL,   // No module name (use command line)
        argv[1],        // Command line
        NULL,           // Process handle not inheritable
        NULL,           // Thread handle not inheritable
        FALSE,          // Set handle inheritance to FALSE
        0,              // No creation flags
        NULL,           // Use parent's environment block
        NULL,           // Use parent's starting directory 
        &si,            // Pointer to STARTUPINFO structure
        &pi )           // Pointer to PROCESS_INFORMATION structure
    ) 
    {
        printf( "CreateProcess failed (%d).\n", GetLastError() );
        return;
    }

as you can see here, you can do better comments with multilines.

Finally, adding a ";" on each line is slow and annoying.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:44 pm**

xorc1zt wrote:Finally, adding a ";" on each line is slow and annoying.

Select your text you want to comment and press Ctrl + B

Multiline statements would be a nice addition. Sometimes the parameters in the functions get pretty long and then when I go back to read it or change it I gotta scroll sideways to find it.

We will probably never get any of these changes as most forum users think that adding an option in will force them to use it

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:05 pm**

So what exactly is the point of repeating things that have already been asked for?

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:43 pm**

freak wrote:So what exactly is the point of repeating things that have already been asked for?

To show how much we really want such features?

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:59 pm**

freak wrote:So what exactly is the point of repeating things that have already been asked for?

keep your sarcasm for yourself please. the point is you don't even answer to your customers, those have been requested for years but not a single sh°t was given from devs. let me gess, the compatibility with ms-dos 5.1 would be broken ?

why not a tracker ? it would be more appropriate and easier than phpbb

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:11 pm**

xorc1zt wrote:those have been requested for years but not a single sh°t was given from devs.

FYI freak is one of the devs, however I do get that feeling described above about requests

Oh yeah, and as always this request thread will probably locked...

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:58 pm**

I really must thank you for this.
You spend maybe 1h just to collect all the threads where
something was already mentioned.

You have stolen 10 minutes from freaks (and freds) time
where they could find/ fix 1 or 2 bugs.

And the result: You have changed nothing.

I don't know what some people think. Payed for a product
as it is. Nothing more. This forum is a cost-free feature, the
support from the developers is free, too. What exactly is your
opinion to call for sth more?

Be nice and polite here and you will get help. Feel free to
wish new functionality what you will get for free, if it is realized.
But stop be childish like this.

MFG PMV

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:00 pm**

Whenever I see these types of threads, I'm always glad that I never got so personal with my own users of my software. Sure, there are advantages with talking directly to your users, but boy, give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Note to other developers: don't end up like Fred and Freak; keep yourself distanced from your users. Trust me, it's so much less stressful.

Watch this (the users are the kids, and the team is Homer) -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adGs-RGss6Y

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:11 pm**

Well, here is a list of some minor features we did implement. Its a few more than 5 i think: http://www.purebasic.com/documentation/ ... story.html
If you look around a little, you will find most of them in this forum as well. Is that what you call "not a single sh°t was given" ?

I seem to be saying this every second day now, so here it goes again:
This is the feature request forum. You are free to request whatever you want, and we do read everything that is posted here. But that is it. It remains just that: a request. A request does not entitle you to anything. Not even an answer. If you don't like that, don't use this sub-forum. Its your choice.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:41 pm**

MachineCode wrote:Watch this (the users are the kids, and the team is Homer) -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adGs-RGss6Y

Such low quality I didn't want to harm my eyes by watching it

freak wrote:Well, here is a list of some minor features we did implement. Its a few more than 5 i think: http://www.purebasic.com/documentation/ ... story.html
If you look around a little, you will find most of them in this forum as well. Is that what you call "not a single sh°t was given" ?

That isn't "not a single **** given" but having no reply does give that feeling, but I know there's no time to go to each one and say no because of X,Y,Z.

IMO I would really like more core program functions rather than 3D/game functions, unless PB is becoming more 3D/Game oriented.

Anyway if you read this freak, have a look at implementing this into the network library if you could (thought I'd sneak it in this feature request post)

http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... 12&t=42559

All the code is already written there and it'd be nice to have this natively in PB. I'm guessing you or Fred never seen it so I thought I'd highlight it.

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