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How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:02 am
by Nituvious
I just turned a very nice start of a project into a "omg i need to rewrite it again" project. I think it was due to trying to fix some bugs...

Any of you pro's keen on sharing some management secrets? :D
I'm probably going to poke around with my failure a little bit longer in an attempt to fix the bug. But incase of the inevitable, could very much use some how-to tips.

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:21 am
by J. Baker
I comment ";" (without quotes) almost everything. Usually so I remember why I added that line. It helps when going back to code you wrote some time ago. And don't forget the ";-" (without quotes) when commenting on larger sections of your code. That will add it to the right column in PB under procedures list. Hope that helps. ;)

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:30 am
by J. Baker
Example of what I do. This is just a piece of larger code. Open that in PB to see what I mean. But don't run it of course. ;)

Code: Select all

Case 3 ;-Select Image Folder
            
            If ReadFile(0, "MoBlur Temp.tmp") ;For some reason CreatePreferences() wouldn't overwrite, so I added this.
                 CloseFile(0)
                DeleteFile("MoBlur Temp.tmp")
            EndIf
            
               If CreatePreferences("MoBlur Temp.tmp")
                 
                 SetFileAttributes("MoBlur Temp.tmp", #PB_FileSystem_Hidden) ;Windows only
            
                InitialPath$ = "C:\"
                InputImages$ = PathRequester("Load images...", InitialPath$)
                
                 SetGadgetText(2, InputImages$)
                
                   ImageCount = 0
                   
                   StatusBarText(10, 0, "Wait! Counting Images") ;counts too fast for this to be seen but just in case
                
                ExamineDirectory(0, InputImages$, "*.png")
                   
                 While NextDirectoryEntry(0) ;getting the total number of images
                
                   ImageCount +1
                
                 Wend

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:53 am
by Nituvious
J. Baker wrote:I comment ";" (without quotes) almost everything. Usually so I remember why I added that line. It helps when going back to code you wrote some time ago. And don't forget the ";-" (without quotes) when commenting on larger sections of your code. That will add it to the right column in PB under procedures list. Hope that helps. ;)
Haha, yeah I always try to add as many comments as I can because I have a habit of forgetting what something does.
I'm not even sure what happened in my current project. It just got out of control I guess. Take a look at what I mean :mrgreen:
It was supposed to be a multiplayer framework for an example of the use of my master server.. only it never got that far lol.
Maybe in the rerererewrite I will learn the proper use of lists. This seriously turned into a humongous freakin' mess. Like, way messier than my normal messes.

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; --------------------------------------------------------------------------
; last modified: June 29th, 2011 @ 10:40:53 PM
; --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Enumeration
	
	#FLAG_RESET = 0

	#NETWORK_HEARTBEAT = 1
	#NETWORK_CONNECT = 2 ; 

	#KEYINPUT_LEFT = 4
	#KEYINPUT_RIGHT = 8
	#KEYINPUT_UP = 16
	#KEYINPUT_DOWN = 32
	#KEYINPUT_FIRE = 64
	
	#HEARTBEAT_TIMEOUT_COUNT = 5
	#HEARTBEAT_TIMER = 1000

EndEnumeration


Global *bufSend = AllocateMemory(1024)
Global *__bufSend = AllocateMemory(5)
Global *bufRecv = AllocateMemory(1024)

Structure pdata

	id.l
	hbcount.b

	x.f
	y.f
	
	keyLeft.b
	keyRight.b
	keyUp.b
	keyDown.b
	
	bitFlag.b
	
	name.s{20}

EndStructure

Structure cdata

	heartbeat.s{4}
	id.l

	keyFlag.b

	x.f
	y.f

	name.s{20}

EndStructure

Global Dim PlayerData.pdata(0) ; if client, element zero is always the player
Global gameType.l = 0, host.l

Declare client_ProcessData()
Declare server_ProcessData()
Declare client_GetInput()
Declare client_RecvData()
Declare client_SendData()
Declare server_RecvData()
Declare server_SendData()

Enumeration
	#MAIN_WIN
EndEnumeration

InitNetwork() : InitSprite() : InitKeyboard()

gameType.l = Val(InputRequester("GAMETYPE", "Run as Client or Server? (enter 0 for client or 1 for server)", "0"))

OpenWindow(#MAIN_WIN, 0, 0, 800, 600, "Test", #PB_Window_ScreenCentered | #PB_Window_SystemMenu)
OpenWindowedScreen(WindowID(#MAIN_WIN), 0, 0, 800, 600, 1, 0, 0)

#Player = 0 ; <-- remove..  V -- remove..
CreateSprite(#Player, 50, 50, #PB_Sprite_Texture | #PB_Sprite_AlphaBlending)
StartDrawing(SpriteOutput(#Player))
Box(0, 0, 50, 50, RGB(0,50,255))
StopDrawing()


If gameType.l = 0 ;{
	SetWindowTitle(#MAIN_WIN, "Client")
	port.l = Val(InputRequester("Choose port...", "Input an open UDP port", "21000"))
	host.l = OpenNetworkConnection(InputRequester("Choose IP...", "Input the IP address to connect to", "127.0.0.1"), port.l, #PB_Network_UDP)
	SendNetworkString(host.l, "cn")
	PlayerData(0)\id = 0
Else
	SetWindowTitle(#MAIN_WIN, "Server")
	port.l = Val(InputRequester("Choose port...", "Input an open UDP port", "21000"))
	host.l = CreateNetworkServer(#PB_Any, port.l, #PB_Network_UDP)
	OpenConsole()
EndIf ;}


Repeat
	Delay(1)
	eventID = WaitWindowEvent(1)
	If gameType.l = 0 ; quick hack to do some position updating/heartbeats should probably throw this into a neatly packed procedure
		client_GetInput()
		client_RecvData()
		If netClientHeartBeatTimer < ElapsedMilliseconds() ; send heartbeat...
			SendNetworkString(host.l, "hb")
			PlayerData(0)\hbcount + 1
			If PlayerData(0)\hbcount >= #HEARTBEAT_TIMEOUT_COUNT
				MessageRequester("Error","Lost connection to the server")
				End
			EndIf
			netClientHeartBeatTimer = ElapsedMilliseconds() + #HEARTBEAT_TIMER
		EndIf
		client_SendData()
		
		; client side position updating
		For x = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If (PlayerData(x)\bitFlag & #KEYINPUT_LEFT) <> 0 : PlayerData(x)\x = PlayerData(x)\x - 1 : EndIf
			If (PlayerData(x)\bitFlag & #KEYINPUT_RIGHT) <> 0 : PlayerData(x)\x = PlayerData(x)\x + 1 : EndIf
			If (PlayerData(x)\bitFlag & #KEYINPUT_UP) <> 0 : PlayerData(x)\y = PlayerData(x)\y - 1 : EndIf
			If (PlayerData(x)\bitFlag & #KEYINPUT_DOWN) <> 0 : PlayerData(x)\y = PlayerData(x)\y + 1 : EndIf
		Next x
		
	ElseIf gameType.l = 1
		server_RecvData()
		If netServerHeartBeatTimer < ElapsedMilliseconds()
			;PrintN("[netHeartBeat] netHeartBeatTimer has elapsed, doing a row call to see who's here.")
			For cn = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData()) ; update heartbeat count and check for disconnections
				If PlayerData(cn)\id <> 0
					If PlayerData(cn)\hbcount >= #HEARTBEAT_TIMEOUT_COUNT
						PrintN("[netHeartBeat] [ID: "+Str(PlayerData(cn)\id)+"] lost connection, removing id for recycling...")
						PlayerData(cn)\id = 0
					Else
						PlayerData(cn)\hbcount + 1; add to the count...
					EndIf
				EndIf
			Next cn
			netServerHeartBeatTimer = ElapsedMilliseconds() + #HEARTBEAT_TIMER
		EndIf
		
		; Do some position x/y updating.
		For cn = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(cn)\id <> 0
				If PlayerData(cn)\keyLeft = #KEYINPUT_LEFT : PlayerData(cn)\x = PlayerData(cn)\x - 1 : EndIf
				If PlayerData(cn)\keyRight = #KEYINPUT_RIGHT : PlayerData(cn)\x = PlayerData(cn)\x + 1 : EndIf
				If PlayerData(cn)\keyUp = #KEYINPUT_UP : PlayerData(cn)\y = PlayerData(cn)\y - 1 : EndIf
				If PlayerData(cn)\keyDown = #KEYINPUT_DOWN : PlayerData(cn)\y = PlayerData(cn)\y + 1 : EndIf
			EndIf
		Next cn
	EndIf
	
	ClearScreen(RGB(0,0,0))	

	For x = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
		If PlayerData(x)\id <> 0
			DisplaySprite(#Player, PlayerData(x)\x, PlayerData(x)\y)
		EndIf
	Next x

	FlipBuffers()
	
Until eventID = #PB_Event_CloseWindow


Procedure client_GetInput()
	
	Static keyLeftState.b, keyRightState.b, keyUpState.b, keyDownState.b
	Shared keyFlagLeft.b, keyFlagRight.b, keyFlagUp.b, keyFlagDown.b
	Shared netBitFlag.b

	ExamineKeyboard()
	; on keypress set the keyflag state for the bit calculation later.
	If KeyboardPushed(#PB_Key_A)
		If keyLeftState.b = 0 : keyFlagLeft.b = #KEYINPUT_LEFT : keyLeftState.b = 1 : EndIf
	Else
		If keyLeftState.b = 1 : keyFlagLeft.b = #FLAG_RESET : keyLeftState.b = 0 : EndIf
	EndIf

	If KeyboardPushed(#PB_Key_D)
		If keyRightState.b = 0 : keyFlagRight.b = #KEYINPUT_RIGHT : keyRightState.b = 1 : EndIf
	Else
		If keyRightState.b = 1 : keyFlagRight.b = #FLAG_RESET : keyRightState.b = 0 : EndIf
	EndIf

	If KeyboardPushed(#PB_Key_W)
		If keyUpState.b = 0 : keyFlagUp.b = #KEYINPUT_UP : keyUpState.b = 1 : EndIf
	Else
		If keyUpState.b = 1 : keyFlagUp = #FLAG_RESET : keyUpState.b = 0 : EndIf
	EndIf

	If KeyboardPushed(#PB_Key_S)
		If keyDownState.b = 0 : keyFlagDown.b = #KEYINPUT_DOWN : keyDownState.b = 1 : EndIf
	Else
		If keyDownState.b = 1 : keyFlagDown.b = #FLAG_RESET : keyDownState.b = 0 : EndIf
	EndIf

EndProcedure

Procedure client_SendData()
	Shared keyFlagLeft.b, keyFlagRight.b, keyFlagUp.b, keyFlagDown.b
	Shared netBitFlag.b
	Static __newBitFlag.b
	; form bit calc, can store several instructions in a single byte.
	netBitFlag.b = keyFlagLeft.b|keyFlagRight.b|keyFlagUp.b|keyFlagDown.b;|#NETWORK_HEARTBEAT
	
	; should only send when a change occurs...
	If netBitFlag.b <> __newBitFlag.b ; checking if a change has occured from a key press. 
		Debug "Before sending: " + Str(netBitFlag.b)
		PokeB(*bufSend + 4, netBitFlag.b)
		SendNetworkData(host.l, *bufSend, SizeOf(cdata))
		__newBitFlag.b = netBitFlag.b
	EndIf
EndProcedure

Procedure client_RecvData()
	eventNetwork= NetworkClientEvent(host.l)
	If eventNetwork
		Select eventNetwork
			Case #PB_NetworkEvent_Data		
				recv = ReceiveNetworkData(host.l, *bufRecv, SizeOf(cdata))
				;Debug "client BitFlag = " + Str(PeekB(*bufRecv))
				If recv > 0
					client_ProcessData()
				EndIf
		EndSelect
	EndIf
EndProcedure

Procedure client_ProcessData()
	If PeekS(*bufRecv) = "hb"
		;Debug "[netHeartBeat] received heartbeat reply from server.. Reseting hbcount"
		PlayerData(0)\hbcount = 0
	EndIf
	If FindString(PeekS(*bufRecv), "c|", 0)
		Debug "Resizing array: " + Mid(PeekS(*bufRecv),FindString(PeekS(*bufRecv), "c|", 0))
		ReDim PlayerData(Val(Mid(PeekS(*bufRecv),FindString(PeekS(*bufRecv), "c|", 0))))
	EndIf
	;Else
	For x = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData()) ; try to update all clients found in the server.... fails....
		; why is this pretending that there are more than 1 client in the server if only 1 client is running..?
		Debug "[ID: " + Str(PeekL(*bufRecv+4)) + "] Attempting to match"
		If PlayerData(x)\id = PeekL(*bufRecv + 4) ; Do an update for clients we know already exist 
			;Debug "Matched id's with received ID...."
			PlayerData(x)\bitFlag = PeekB(*bufRecv + 8) ; bitflag
			PlayerData(x)\x = PeekF(*bufRecv + 9) ; struct\y
			PlayerData(x)\y = PeekF(*bufRecv + 13) ; struct\y
			PlayerData(x)\name = PeekS(*bufSend + 17) ; struct\name.s{20}
			Debug "[ID: "+Str(PlayerData(x)\id)+"] [X: " +Str(PlayerData(x)\x) + "] [Y:"+Str(PlayerData(x)\y) + "] Already Exists"
		EndIf
		If x = ArraySize(PlayerData())
			;If PlayerData(x)\id = 0
				PlayerData(x)\id = PeekL(*bufRecv + 4)
				PlayerData(x)\bitFlag = PeekB(*bufRecv + 8) ; bitflag
				PlayerData(x)\x = PeekF(*bufRecv + 9) ; struct\y
				PlayerData(x)\y = PeekF(*bufRecv + 13) ; struct\y
				PlayerData(x)\name = PeekS(*bufSend + 17) ; struct\name.s{20}
				Debug "[ID: "+Str(PlayerData(x)\id)+"] [X: " +Str(PlayerData(x)\x) + "] [Y:"+Str(PlayerData(x)\y) + "] New Element"
			;EndIf
		EndIf
	Next x
	;EndIf
EndProcedure

Procedure server_RecvData()
	Shared clientID
	
	eventNetwork = NetworkServerEvent()
	If eventNetwork
		clientID = EventClient()
		Select eventNetwork
			Case #PB_NetworkEvent_Data
				recv = ReceiveNetworkData(clientID, *bufRecv, SizeOf(cdata))
				PrintN("[netReceive] [IP: " + IPString(GetClientIP(clientID)) + "] Buffer content: " + Str(PeekB(*bufRecv)))
				If recv > 0
					server_ProcessData()
				EndIf
		EndSelect
	EndIf

EndProcedure

Procedure server_ProcessData()
	Shared clientID
	Static netRecycle
	; 
	If PeekS(*bufRecv) = "hb" ; Heartbeat 
		PrintN("[netHeartBeat] received a heartbeat [clientID:"+Str(clientID)+"]")
		For cn = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(cn)\id = clientID
				;PrintN("[netHeartBeat] heartbeat matched [clientID:"+Str(clientID)+" @ "+Str(cn)+"]")
				PlayerData(cn)\hbcount.b = 0
				SendNetworkString(PlayerData(cn)\id, "hb") 
				;PrintN("[netHeartbeat] sent a heartbeat back to client. We're here!!!")
				Break
			EndIf
		Next cn
	EndIf

	If PeekS(*bufRecv) = "cn";(PeekB(*bufRecv) & #NETWORK_CONNECT) <> 0 ; process any connection attempts
		; TODO: check if max connections reached before continuing
		PrintN("[netConnect] received connection attempt..")
		For cn = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(cn)\id = clientID ; player already in the server!
				PrintN("[netConnect] player already connected!")
				Break
			EndIf
			
			If cn = ArraySize(PlayerData()) ; reached the end of the array with no matches. he's legit.
				PrintN("[netConnect] id was not found.. ")
				If PlayerData(cn)\id = 0 ; check if last element is empty
					;PrintN("[netConnect] current array["+Str(cn)+"] was empty, no need to recycle.")
					PlayerData(cn)\id = clientID
					PrintN("[netConnect] player["+Str(cn)+"] joined successfully.")
					For x = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
						SendNetworkString(PlayerData(cn)\id, "c|"+Str(ArraySize(PlayerData())))
					Next x
					Break
				Else
					netRecycle = #False
					For c = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData()) ; recycle empty elements
						;PrintN("[netConnect] attempting to recycle..")
						If PlayerData(c)\id = 0
							;PrintN("[netConnect] found empty slot, adding id to array and continuing...")
							netRecycle = #True
							PlayerData(c)\id = clientID
							PrintN("[netConnect] player["+Str(cn)+"] joined successfully.")
							For x = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
								SendNetworkString(PlayerData(cn)\id, "c|"+Str(ArraySize(PlayerData())))
							Next x
							Break
						EndIf
					Next c
					If netRecycle = #False
						;PrintN("[netConnect] recycling failed, resizing array.")
						ReDim PlayerData.pdata(ArraySize(PlayerData())+1) ; resize
						PrintN("[netConnect] player["+Str(cn)+"] joined successfully.")
						For x = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
							SendNetworkString(PlayerData(cn)\id, "c|"+Str(ArraySize(PlayerData())))
						Next x
						PlayerData(cn+1)\id = clientID
						Break
					EndIf
					
				EndIf
			EndIf
		Next cn
	EndIf
	
	; TODO: bit flag check should be optimized some how.. 
	If (PeekB(*bufRecv + 4) & #KEYINPUT_LEFT) <> 0
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyLeft = #KEYINPUT_LEFT : EndIf
		Next kz
	Else
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyLeft = #FLAG_RESET : EndIf
		Next kz
	EndIf
	If (PeekB(*bufRecv + 4) & #KEYINPUT_RIGHT) <> 0
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyRight = #KEYINPUT_RIGHT : EndIf
		Next kz
	Else
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyRight = #FLAG_RESET : EndIf
		Next kz
	EndIf
	If (PeekB(*bufRecv + 4) & #KEYINPUT_UP) <> 0
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyUp = #KEYINPUT_UP : EndIf
		Next kz
	Else
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyUp = #FLAG_RESET : EndIf
		Next kz
	EndIf
	If (PeekB(*bufRecv + 4) & #KEYINPUT_DOWN) <> 0
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyDown = #KEYINPUT_DOWN : EndIf
		Next kz
	Else
		For kz = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			If PlayerData(kz)\id = clientID : PlayerData(kz)\keyDown = #FLAG_RESET : EndIf
		Next kz
	EndIf
	
	server_SendData()

EndProcedure

Procedure server_SendData() ; should only use this function after some event occurs...
	Shared clientID
	Static *struct.cdata
	
	; TODO: need to only send data when a client structure has changed. probably don't need to include x/y until after bitFlag & key <> 0
	; probably need to look into a way of comparing memory of each client..
	*struct.cdata = AllocateMemory(SizeOf(cdata))
	For y = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData()) ; <- client to send data to
		For x = 0 To ArraySize(PlayerData())
			With *struct
				\heartbeat = "hb"
				\keyFlag = PlayerData(x)\keyDown | PlayerData(x)\keyLeft | PlayerData(x)\keyRight | PlayerData(x)\keyUp
				;If PlayerData(y)\id = PlayerData(x)\id
				;	\id = -1 ; -1 = local client id, or the id that belongs to playerdata(0) on the client side -- no longer true
				;Else
				\id = PlayerData(x)\id
				;EndIf
				\x = PlayerData(x)\x
				\y = PlayerData(x)\y
				Debug "["+Str(PlayerData(x)\id)+"] [X: " +Str(PlayerData(x)\x) + "] [Y:"+Str(PlayerData(x)\y) + "]"
			EndWith
			SendNetworkData(PlayerData(y)\id, *struct, SizeOf(cdata))
		Next x
	Next y
EndProcedure

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:21 am
by J. Baker
Been there, done that. I also will save a working version as I go. Like each PB Source File has it own version number, gametest_1.pb, gametest_2.pb, gametest_3.pb. Just so I can fall back on the previous file and try again. ;)

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:34 am
by Nituvious
:o
That. Is. An. Excellent. Idea. :shock:
So simple yet so effective! Holy crap.

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:53 am
by J. Baker
Thanks!

And it's not only good for if you mess up so badly that you don't want to repair it. Sometimes after I've gone through a few pb source versions, I'll wish I had my old source back for something, like better feature or better optimization. I can easily go back and grab it and use it in my new source. I started doing that shortly after using PB and it has been a definite time saver.

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:22 am
by skywalk
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... lit=fossil
Another way to go...
Just create your .pb files without any decoration(_ver, or _date).
'Add' them to a Fossil repository(actually a single SQLite db file).
Make a copy or 'clone' of that repository on a safe USB stick or network drive.
Now you have a local working area and a backup that can by synchronized with a single command.

Before you start PB, do a 'pull' from the repository you wish to use.
Then an 'update', which will extract the latest version of your files from the repository.
Start PB and edit your code.
Each time you save with PB, you can make a Tool that also saves to the repository, with a 'commit'.
So, each save is always to the same file or files in PB, but the repository keeps a difference table of all changes stored with a 'commit'.
When you quit PB, you could delete all your .pb files, since they are all stored in the repository.
If you want to go back in time, you would specify the unique id or version assigned for that 'commit'.
Commits without specifying, default to the latest version.

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:07 pm
by Blood
Nituvious wrote:I just turned a very nice start of a project into a "omg i need to rewrite it again" project. I think it was due to trying to fix some bugs...

Any of you pro's keen on sharing some management secrets? :D
I'm probably going to poke around with my failure a little bit longer in an attempt to fix the bug. But incase of the inevitable, could very much use some how-to tips.
Use OOP! It's the best way of handling complexity, but because PB is not an object orientated language, it's not really an option so dispite the lack of OOP in PB, try these:
  1. Try not to use goto or declare
  2. Split your code up into modules (separate files), including them when needed
  3. All code should be self documenting i.e. use good variable names and keep things simple
  4. Refactor often (see a bit of bad code, change it now, not later)
  5. Comments should be used to explain why, not how
  6. Avoid duplication at all costs
  7. Don't add functionality you not going to use
  8. Don't optimise prematurely, favour readability
  9. Procedures should do only one thing and do it well
There's probably more but that's what i could think off the top of my head. Obviously using OOP would be more beneficial.

J. Baker wrote:Been there, done that. I also will save a working version as I go. Like each PB Source File has it own version number, gametest_1.pb, gametest_2.pb, gametest_3.pb. Just so I can fall back on the previous file and try again. ;)
Please god don't do this, that's insane!!! Use a proper revision control system such as Mercurial its easy to use and FREE! Honestly J. Baker you are doing manually what a revision control system does for you! Using a revision control system you can roll back any file to any previous state at any time of development!

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:00 pm
by J. Baker
Blood wrote:Please god don't do this, that's insane!!! Use a proper revision control system such as Mercurial its easy to use and FREE! Honestly J. Baker you are doing manually what a revision control system does for you! Using a revision control system you can roll back any file to any previous state at any time of development!
Thanks but I'm fine with the way I do things. ;)

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:10 pm
by skywalk
Gotta agree with Blood here, except the OOP in its current state. :wink:
@J. Baker - don't ignore version control until you try it. You will kick yourself after you find how much time you save. :)

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:36 pm
by Foz
You can use version control, or, as I do - Dropbox - they keep a rolling 30 day version history. Every save, every run, you will get a new version automatically being stored for you. And yes, it's saved my hide a number of times.

As such, all of my PB Projects and other docs are now kept in Dropbox. :D

If you pay for it you can have a "pack rat" option which keeps all revisions forever! :shock:

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:22 pm
by RichAlgeni
I agree with Blood, find a good source code management program and it will make your life so much easier!

Here's another in case anyone is interested:

http://code.google.com/p/msysgit

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:29 pm
by Foz
Perhaps the simplest code management that is being overlooked is within PB itself - it has a project feature so you can split out your functions into includes (thus enabling you to split your functions down into manageable sizes, while also keeping the files clean) and yet at the same time keeping everything together :)

Re: How do you guys manage to keep your code... managed?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:18 pm
by Blood
RichAlgeni wrote:I agree with Blood, find a good source code management program and it will make your life so much easier!

Here's another in case anyone is interested:

http://code.google.com/p/msysgit
i find git is harder to use than mercurial, but each to his own.
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