SHOCKED WITH BLITZ BASIC

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 12:58 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by stede.

I read all the messages from the topic PureBasic .dll's and Blitz and can't believe the hostility toward the two languages.

Actually I only knew of one version of basic, Visual Basic and when I finally found my way to BlitzBasic I was in shock! I couldn't believe how clean and small and fast and wonderful BlitzBasic was. I was impressed to say the least.

I was very disapointed in BlitzBasic only being able to do games (though it does it better then anyone) and found on their site that they recommended PureBasic.

PureBasic is by far the best Application Basic language I have ever seen and probably the most efficient business language on the planet.

Now for my two sense...

1. It is a shame I have to have two different versions of Basic. Is anyone even considering maybe a union between Blitz and PureBasic. I think it would be the greatest thing for the both of you.

2. Although I love Blitz, it is only 1% the ALl-PURPOSE language that PureBasic is. If only PureBasic were to get some serious game power!

3. Blitz is by far more professional at their marketing campaign. I was able to download the language after purchase and still recieved a great Box with CD. They also have a far better web site. I am going to be writing FREE tutorials one day and putting as much nice things on my site as I can about this wonderful program but why don't you guys offer some affiliate program or something?

Also I am a Web Developer (ASP, VB, etc, etc.) If you guys need any volunteer work let me know!

Thanks,
Stede Troisi

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 1:50 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> If only PureBasic were to get some serious game power!

It will. PureBasic is only a new language compared to Blitz Basic. You must
give it time.

PB - Registered PureBasic Coder

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 1:58 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Danilo.

PureBasic already has enough gaming power.
Only stuff is missing atm is 3D, but not
everything must be 3D (remember Blitz2D?).

You can make 3D looking games today with
PureBasic - if you have enough power.

If you miss something, say what you want
and make useful suggestions please.

cya,
...Danilo

(registered PureBasic user)

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:11 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.

Pure Basic is great for creating both Windows Applications and Games. It has quite an extensive graphic command library for being such a young language and because it supports the use of DLL's, you can use any 3D DLL library available if you want to do 3D stuff (until PB gets it's own native 3D library)

From the work I have done in both PB and Blitz, PB is the faster language hands down when it comes to graphics... and the EXE's are so much smaller.

As for additional support, you can visit the PB Resources Site for more ASM libraries, code snippets, apps, etc. and even contribute your own work if you would like to support the PB community.
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb

In my opinion, PB can do anything Blitz can do an much more as long as you are willing to do some of the work. (which is what coders do)

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:14 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by stede.

Thanks for the wonderful link! Everyone on this forum is so helpful!

Pure Basic is great for creating both Windows Applications and Games. It has quite an extensive graphic command library for being such a young language and because it supports the use of DLL's, you can use any 3D DLL library available if you want to do 3D stuff (until PB gets it's own native 3D library)

From the work I have done in both PB and Blitz, PB is the faster language hands down when it comes to graphics... and the EXE's are so much smaller.

As for additional support, you can visit the PB Resources Site for more ASM libraries, code snippets, apps, etc. and even contribute your own work if you would like to support the PB community.
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb

In my opinion, PB can do anything Blitz can do an much more as long as you are willing to do some of the work. (which is what coders do)

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 11:44 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by merendo.

I used BlitzBasic before I changed to PureBasic. Both are really cool, but I think PureBasic is better for programmers, which want to code more, than "just a game". Of course, many famous games were coded in blitz, but this is not reason enough to say: Blitz is the only language to be. I like both. Blitz and pure are "brothers" (This is what the german blitz site says), so they should not fight against. Well, everyone should know on his own, which language is the true for him.

Cu @ll, merendo
--
Go as far as you can, and realize at last, that you are there again, where you have started your way.

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 12:06 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Danilo.

> so they should not fight against.

Its not fighting - its competition...

Most ppl like competition.

cya,
...Danilo

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:23 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.

stede wrote:
PureBasic is by far the best Application Basic language I have ever seen and probably the most efficient business language on the planet.

Yes, thats absolutly right!

1. It is a shame I have to have two different versions of Basic. Is anyone even considering maybe a union between Blitz and PureBasic. I think it would be the greatest thing for the both of you.

Mark (coder of Blitz) and Fred (coder of PureBasic) are still in contact as i know... so they could maybe help a bit if there is somewhere a coding related problem or what ever... If you know, what i mean... And as Danilo said: Its not fighting - its competition...

One big feature of PureBasic is that you have one code and can compile it for three platforms, using inline assembler(!), calling any(!) API function, very very small(!) and fast(!) executeable files, optional asm output file! For example i write a hello World program, output to console...

Code: Select all

BlitzBasic3D v1.76   =   1.064.960  bytes! 
PureBasic v3.20      =       6.176  bytes!

2. Although I love Blitz, it is only 1% the ALl-PURPOSE language that PureBasic is. If only PureBasic were to get some serious game power!

I used BlitzBasic2D and BlitzBasic3D before I changed to PureBasic. I used BlitzBasic first, because BlitzBasic is well known by most Amiga Users, since it come out for Amiga Computer in 1993 or so! Blitz is a nice language for game develpopers, sure! But please note that Blitz is a comercial program instead of PureBasic, where is only one privat men (Fred) behind the product for three OperationSystems... With the last versions of PureBasic you can write your own 2D games without any probs, like in BlitzBasic! Ok, there are some 2D drawing operations i still miss... like rotate (not for 3D Fred!) and so on... But all in one PureBasic is mainly used for developing appz and now more and more people are trying to code games too. Habe a look to 32k Superball (same game in Blitz is about 1,5 MB!) or to all other done and anounted games in PureBasic

3. Blitz is by far more professional at their marketing campaign. I was able to download the language after purchase and still recieved a great Box with CD. They also have a far better web site. I am going to be writing FREE tutorials one day and putting as much nice things on my site as I can about this wonderful program but why don't you guys offer some affiliate program or something?

Blitz is just a big comercial product and in boxed form to buy at your software dealer i.e. - instead of PureBasic where you have to order it directly from the programmer! Next point is the big price-different between BlitzBasic and PureBasic... Order PureBasic, pay one time and get all three (!) versions for Pc, Linux and Amiga! Would be nice to support PureBasic with some nice tutorials too... Because PureBasic is new and need the help of the comunity! Spread the word and not the program!

Thanks for the wonderful link! Everyone on this forum is so helpful!

If you have any problem, just visit the forum and you get asap help from other users or from the programmer of PureBasic direct! You can talk to Fred (programmer behind this great language) at IRC too and he did all to make PureBasic as stable as possible and add any user wishes...! You dont will have this at BlitzBasic and Mark Sibly on this way!

PIII450, 256MB Ram, 6GB HD, RivaTNT, DirectX8.1, SB AWE64, Win2000 + all Updates...

greetz
MrVainSCL! aka Thorsten

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:31 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Hitman.

I don't think it's something strange, I use PureBasic & PowerBasic together.

PureBasic is easier to code, but PowerBasic have more 3rd party support, usually PureBasic for simple console app like Convertes, PowerBasic for GUI apps.

Well, everyone needs to do something for living.

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 5:04 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by stede.

That is SAD! With a simple GUI interface and a little more 3rd party support PureBasic could be the BEST BASIC LANGUAGE OF ALL TIME!

Stede

I don't think it's something strange, I use PureBasic & PowerBasic together.

PureBasic is easier to code, but PowerBasic have more 3rd party support, usually PureBasic for simple console app like Convertes, PowerBasic for GUI apps.

Well, everyone needs to do something for living.

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:00 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Hitman.

I agree with you, the point is how we're going to advertise PureBasic.

Most people think "PB" means PowerBasic....

The PureBasic will be great as long as it has a GUI Designer, not joking, it's really a pain to code a GUI in brain.

Well, everyone needs to do something for living.

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:06 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> PureBasic for simple console app like Convertes, PowerBasic for GUI apps.

Rubbish! PureBasic is more than adequate for GUI apps! It's not just for
doing console apps! Perhaps you haven't seen some of the GUI apps that some
people here have written, such as FangBeast's home inventory app, or Cor's
guitar app?

PB - Registered PureBasic Coder

Edited by - PB on 15 July 2002 07:07:36

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:10 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.

Perhaps you haven't seen some of the GUI apps that some people here have written, such as FangBeast's home inventory app, or Cor's guitar app?

PB - Registered PureBasic Coder

Aww shucks (The cheque is in the mail)

:) (As soona s someone starts paying for the app that is) ROFLMAO

Falling off the chair was easy, getting back up was a different thing and hardly worth the view

Fangles