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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.

Hey folks, I am about to tear my hair out here. Every time I get a gadget triggering an event properly, I get the next one falling over. I obviously have them in the wrong order, or testing the wrong way (You keep out of this Paul!!) And I need someone's hep figuring this all out.

If anyone has time, I'll send them my files and explain what I am trying to do.

Thanks.

Fangles

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Franco.

If anyone has time, I'll send them my files and explain what I am trying to do.

Fangles I'm glad to help you out of this.

Send the files to: [url]mailto:fsw@attbi.com[/url]

If your code is too messy and unorganized I could translate it to PureGUI, if YOU want...

Or maybe you found a secret BUG in PureBasic?


Have a nice day...
Franco

Sometimes you have to go a lonely way to accomplish genius things.

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.

If anyone has time, I'll send them my files and explain what I am trying to do.

Fangles I'm glad to help you out of this.

Send the files to: [url]mailto:fsw@attbi.com[/url]

If your code is too messy and unorganized I could translate it to PureGUI, if YOU want...

Or maybe you found a secret BUG in PureBasic?


Have a nice day...
Franco

Sometimes you have to go a lonely way to accomplish genius things.

It's my brain that's messy Franco but thanks for the kind suggestion. I am waiting for Francois to send me some examples of proper event management first before I translate anything as I would have to send you a whole stack of support files too but when I have it working properly, then I'd love for you to translate the mess :)

Just one question however, didn't you say somewhere that if your application uses (and exits) more than one window that PureGUI might have a problem with something there?

Fangles

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Franco.

Just one question however, didn't you say somewhere that if your application uses (and exits) more than one window that PureGUI might have a problem with something there?

Fangles

Nope, there is no problem having more than one Window and using PureGUI.
Since the first public release v1.0 is there no problem with such a thing.

Every Gadget/Object/Whatever uses the same Event Handler, and it is really unimportant on which Window this GUI Object is.Now with the new v1.2 you are able to use the new PureBasic v3.2 and you will have no problems at all.

Also only the X Button of the Main Window (the first generated Window) is able to quit the Application. The other Child Windows close itself by pressing the X Button.
PureGUI comes as source code so you can see what is going on.
(YES, I know; I was to dumb to make an asm lib, but... please tell nobody )

It adds only 7kb to your code, and for this you will have less work

I don't say you have to use it, it's up to you - but the more I write on PureGUIDE (the IDE for PureBasic) the more I appreciate that I can fully concentrate on the functions behind the events, and this is great!


Have a nice day...
Franco

Sometimes you have to go a lonely way to accomplish genius things.

Edited by - Franco on 14 June 2002 03:38:24

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Danilo.

Franco:
I think the names for your stuff arent very good.
GUI = Graphical User Interface.
"PureGUI" sounds like the Visual Tool, but its some procedure stuff.
"GUIDE" for the Visual Tool... hmmm.

For me "GUIDE" has nothing to do with a Visual Designer.
Remember "AmigaGUIDE" ?? "GUIDE" is mostly used for
Documentation and such.
Maybe i´m wrong, so its just a hint.

(You say you are from the States, so you should
know english much better than me... )

cya,
...Danilo

(registered PureBasic user)

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Franco.

Franco:
I think the names for your stuff arent very good.
GUI = Graphical User Interface.
"PureGUI" sounds like the Visual Tool, but its some procedure stuff.
"GUIDE" for the Visual Tool... hmmm.

For me "GUIDE" has nothing to do with a Visual Designer.
Remember "AmigaGUIDE" ?? "GUIDE" is mostly used for
Documentation and such.
Maybe i´m wrong, so its just a hint.

(You say you are from the States, so you should
know english much better than me... )

cya,
...Danilo

(registered PureBasic user)

Danilo,
thanks for your opinion.
I thought a long time for an appropriate name.

But I don't think this is a language issue.
I speak fluently 3 languages (English, German, Italian).
I understand Spanish (is very familiar to Italian) and a little bit French (6 month of french lessons over 20 years ago... was too hard to handle for my little brain)
I can also speak Stupidish, Foolish, Sillyish, Idiotish, Nerdish, Jerkish and Dumbish (once in awhile I use these languages too... but not very often - I hope).

Do you like PureGUIEW better? (Graphical User Interface Event Wrapper)
Or PureGUIWWAONAAEH? (Graphical User Interface Wrapper With Automatic Object Numbering And Automatic Event Handling)

Fred mentioned DYNAMIC NUMBERING - not bad at all...

Normally a 'Graphical User Interface' not only draws some GUI Objects like Windows, Buttons etc. it also manages the GUI Events of these GUI Objects.
Like wxWindows or Fred's build-in GUI Toolkit in PureBasic.

A programming language has nothing to do with a GUI Toolkit, best example is yaBasic.
And a GUI Toolkit has nothing to do with a specific language, best example is Japi.
Japi is a GUI Toolkit that uses the Java-GUI-API (available for most used OS) and it works with different programming languages like Basic, C, Pascal, Euphoria (I think Fortran too, but I'm not sure).

If you have read the PureGUI docs you have seen that it says:

PureGUI
The GUI Wrapper for PureBasic.

and also:

PureGUI provides you with automatic Object numbering and automatic GUI-Event handling.

Nowhere you will find in the docs that PureGUI 'IS THE GUI FOR PUREBASIC'.

Sure, I didn't make a new GUI-Toolkit for PureBasic and implement the automatic Object numbering and automatic GUI-Event handling in it.

Why should I. Fred did an excellent job with his GUI-Toolkit.
If you speak with Fred he can tell you that the whole GUI stuff under Windows can be a 'pain in the ass' (sorry for this language, which one is this? - sure nothing to be proud of...).

PureGUIDE is the IDE (Intergrated Development Environment OR Interactive Development Environment) for the GUI Event Wrapper, all clear?
Do you like PureGUIIDE better?
Or PureGUIWWAONAAEHIDE? Pure.....HIDE? I have nothing to hide

If you like these words better, I can change that, have no problems with that. NULL PROBLEMO!
I can also stop my work on it... NULL PROBLEMO either! I don't need a Visual thingy anyway.
(this wasn't nice, was it? - another language... also nothing to be proud of...)
Ups, this was my italian temper - SORRY, ENTSCHULDUGUNG, SCUSA, APENADO, PARDON .
Or was it my german temper, my american temper - choose whatever you want...

Anyway, If you come with a better name, give it to me - please! (I mean it!!!)


Danilo, you have right, GUIDE is normally a guide, document or whatever you name it.

But people are not focused on ONE explanation for one word.

Best example GNU - we all know that Gnu is a type of an African antelope, but it can also stay for 'GNU NOT UNIX'.
This is an acronym like NASA, UNO - and the different variants of a character combination is endless.
Also GUI and GUIIDE are acronyms.
Also it is totally appropriate to make GUIDE out of GUIIDE.
Why not? Sometimes you get a special meaning out of it.

Or do you want to have these names for some of your projects - pick one out!
I really don't care.

BTW: if you search in the internet you will see that PureGUI is already in use...

Danilo, what I wrote is NOT meant to offense you in any way.
german translation:
Danilo, was ich geschrieben habe sollte dich in keiner weise beleidigen.

Peace man...

Have a nice day...
Franco

Sometimes you have to go a lonely way to accomplish genius things.

Edited by - franco on 14 June 2002 19:22:31

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Danilo.

As i said:
>> Maybe i´m wrong, so its just a hint.

Do what you want, i dont really care.
I only wanted to say that "PureGUI" doesnt
sound like EventHandling and "PureGUIDE"
doesnt sound like a Visual Tool.

But the people that use this stuff can
see what it is when they download it.
So it shouldnt be a big problem...

Have fun,
...Danilo

(registered PureBasic user)