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Does anybody here have any experience with andLinux? If so, in stability, performance and compatibility, how does it compare to other distros like Ubuntu, Mandriva, etc? Have you run into any problems with PB and andLinux?

acxcording to the andlinux.org page:

andLinux is a complete Ubuntu Linux system running seamlessly in Windows 2000 based systems (2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 7; 32-bit versions only). This project was started for Dynamism for the GP2X community, but its userbase far exceeds its original design. andLinux is free and will remain so, but donations are greatly needed.

Boldify is mine but since it is basically Ubuntu I woud assume the issues would be extrmemly similar

Rook Zimbabwe wrote:Boldify is mine but since it is basically Ubuntu I woud assume the issues would be extrmemly similar

Being "beta 2" is what has me leery of the Windows integration.

It appears to be a nice solution to avoid dual booting and not having to resort to running Linux in a VM. But, I don't want to install it if others here have had issues with it. I trust PBers opinions more than I would the opinions on the *nix forums.

I have been looking at those screenshots myself and it does look intresting... I have NOT read the faqs but it seems to be a VM I agree.

Still what benefit? Is there something you can only run in LINUX?

Hmmm... perhaps I am thinking from the wrong direction... it would or should allow linux sandboxing of programs run but all the other features of wondows to be available...

OK I vote to try when I go to Win 7

I have NOT read the faqs but it seems to be a VM I agree.

I do not know if it is or not. I wasn't clear, but the comment about the VM was referring to using something like VirtualPC and Ubuntu to be able to get similar functionality.

Still what benefit? Is there something you can only run in LINUX?

I want to start supporting Linux with my software with the goal to eventually be Linux only with my development, but I do not want to have to dual boot a system, and I do not have a system to dedicate to Linux only. This appears to be a possible compromise?

Same question like Pure and Power if you ask me . . . . . .

But Distrowatch is your friend http://www.distrowatch.com
and PCLinuxOS is the one I use my self.
cw

The whole point of andLinux is that it's NOT a VM. That is supposed to give it more performance.

I use mandriva powerpack 2010 myself .. I've tried VM's dual boots etc... the best way to run linux is standaline and networked system. its like ANY OS always work better alone where it can doi its own thing without any limits or caps.. where it can run FREE ..... lol
(yes i've used debian , ubunto , slackware , suse , fedora , core , centos .. but a always keep coming back mandriva)

Still what benefit? Is there something you can only run in LINUX?

I want to start supporting Linux with my software with the goal to eventually be Linux only with my development, but I do not want to have to dual boot a system, and I do not have a system to dedicate to Linux only. This appears to be a possible compromise?[/quote]

I bought a $39.00 US Compaq iPaq Celeron 1000 box off eBay and with shipping it cost about $50.00 US and I run red hat on that... best thing I did. I plan to switch to ubuntu on that box soonest... I don't really use it much because my wife uses it to access her work stuff...

Kuron, use a VM, such as VirtualBox...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~bluez/purebasic/p ... 12.htm#top

codewalker wrote:Same question like Pure and Power if you ask me . . . . . .

I am not sure how you come to that conclusion from somebody asking about PureB and andLinux. I am sorry if I gave the wrong impression with my post.

I use mandriva powerpack 2010 myself ..

Their customizations and enhancements of KDE are very nice.

Kuron, use a VM, such as VirtualBox...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~bluez/purebasic/p ... 12.htm#top

Very helpful info, thank you very much.

Or use VMware Player (it's free) http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
and choose from one of the many pre-built Linux Appliance VMs http://www.vmware.com/appliances/

There's lot's of pre-built ubuntu Linux VMs http://www.vmware.com/appliances/direct ... 0?k=ubuntu

Kuron wrote:Does anybody here have any experience with andLinux?

I have experience with andLinux since more than 2 years (starting with Beta 1 and Ubuntu 7.04 and running Beta 2 with Ubuntu 9.04 since May 2009) and I like it very much. I use it on my software development system with Windows XP Professional SP2. andLinux uses a coLinux kernel (a modified Linux kernel which runs as a task in Windows). So it's not running in a virtual machine and hence the performance is much better.

But the biggest advantage:
You can test your PureBasic code simultaneously in the Windows and Linux IDE and display the output windows side by side. In this way I can check for example the font size and text width of buttons and other dialog elements and adjust them accordingly to keep a common source code base for both platforms.

Kuron wrote: If so, in stability, performance and compatibility, how does it compare to other distros like Ubuntu, Mandriva, etc? Have you run into any problems with PB and andLinux?

The stability is very good. The only problems have been crashes in Konqueror which seems to have stability problems in andLinux. But Dolphin seems to run quite stable...

The performance is good. In a recent thread I posted the speed of the same code in Windows and Linux. It was identical:
http://purebasic.fr/english/viewtopic.p ... 82&start=4

The compatibility couldn't be much better because andLinux Beta 2 uses an Ubuntu 9.04 distribution with KDE 4 or Xfce (a desktop alternative to KDE and Gnome which uses far less resources running even on older PCs with a small RAM footprint). With the packet manager Synaptic you can download and install countless software packages from the whole Ubuntu universe/multiverse and keep your Ubuntu uptodate with all security patches.

A disadvantage may be that currently only a 32 bit version is available (you can only install andLinux in a 32 bit Windows 2000, XP or Vista) but the 64 bit version development has just started. The installation itself is very easy. You download and double click one single exe file and the installation starts. You only have to answer a few questions (normally you just can accept the default settings), reboot your system and can start your andLinux from this time on whenever you need it...

One cool thing is that you can write batch programs which mix Windows and Linux commands (such as the invaluable grep or awk which aren't available in Windows ). Or you can open Linux text files by a right click on the file in Windows Explorer and choosing the Linux text editor "Kate". This and many other new shortcuts you are able to configure during the andLinux installation.

I would suggest to give andLinux a try. I wouldn't want to miss andLinux anymore although I am administrating more than 30 native Linux installations (mostly SUSE Linux Enterprise Servers and some Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xfce, Debian and OpenSuSE installations)...

Just take a look into http://www.andlinux.org/ with many helpful step by step installation and modification descriptions, tips & tricks and screenshots.

Shardik, thank you for the feedback and reassurance.

Shardik wrote:With the packet manager Synaptic you can download and install countless software packages from the whole Ubuntu universe/multiverse and keep your Ubuntu uptodate with all security patches.

This is the one issue I have with any Linux distro I have tried (Mandrake/Mandriva/Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu) is that my development machine is not connected to the internet. It is a bit different downloading and installing software and needed runtimes than with Windows.

I will do some backing up and install andLinux later this week. I just recently reinstalled my main dev system, so there isn't too much to back up and it won't be a major hassle to wipe everything and reinstall if I don't like andLinux.

I don't have my primary development machine (widows) networked either... MUCH safer.

Though I have to say that the Red Hat one is pretty much safe even though it is!!!