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I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:52 pm
by Kale
It's suddenly dawned on me i no longer like using Basic. So i'm doing a PB and moving on.

Like him, i'm sure i have my enemies here and i'm never one to admit i'm wrong, i'm very strong minded. I like to argue and love to the thrill of debate but i feel i'm probably always coming across as arrogant. Oh well, i've never been understood by many people. I feel people here should open their minds to more languages and better practises.

I'm going to respectfully fade away as i feel Basic is just too simple and constraining. Yes, i agree you can produce any software using a Basic dialect but by christ it's a chore! I love OOP! I have for many many years, it started by using Python in the ninties. To me Basic, any Basic, not just PB, seems so old and so cumbersome that i can't understand why it's still around. I understand that very religious communities always build around Basic dialects, which usually consist of young beginners, hobbiests or nostalgic old fodders. To be honest, i think i've moved on.

I've been involved with PB since 2002 and i've seen it mature into a great little language. But i'm never satisfied with it. The 3D engine could do with some work or more datatypes should be added, etc... It's not mine and i have no say over it, i should just move on if it's winding me up. I do love the small exes and fast compilation though, the speed is great, but for serious projects you need OOP built-in from the ground up, period! Like Fr34k said, tacking it on is silly at this stage and i agree.

Anyway, i may lurk from time to time under a new name just to search and stuff but i'm gone.

you can kick me now. :lol:

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Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:59 pm
by netmaestro
OK. You know best what you want to do with your time. You too will be missed.

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:50 am
by Rings
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:37 am
by eesau
Kale wrote:I do love the small exes and fast compilation though, the speed is great, but for serious projects you need OOP built-in from the ground up, period!
Oh my, I didn't know my projects weren't serious. Better not tell my boss :P

Sad to see you go though, your book was great and you were always helpful. Do drop by sometime, even if it's just for nostalgia!

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:59 am
by luis
It's a good day (while it lasts).

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:27 pm
by Foz
Ok this is silly now. Can a mod please ban people from leaving please? ;)

It's a shame that you are going. I agree that good OOP languages (.net, Python) are really something special, and they are a joy to code in. My beef with them is what PureBasic does very well - compiles to executable code, and I can do it across different platforms. If Python or .net came with proper cross platform compilers, I know I would use them in a heart beat. Which is why I'm keeping an eye on Vala at the moment. :)

Still, good luck, and I hope that you make your way back here. Crawling and sniveling for forgiveness :twisted:

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:49 pm
by srod
...you can kick me now.
Now that's the best offer I've had all day!

srod laces up his steel toe-capped boots...

:)

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:06 pm
by zikitrake
eesau wrote:...Sad to see you go though, your book was great and you were always helpful. Do drop by sometime, even if it's just for nostalgia!
+1

Sorry to read this. Best for you, Kale. :cry:

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:42 pm
by milan1612
Thanks for your book, it has helped me countless times. Good luck for your future, maybe you can drop by
every now and then to follow Purebasic's development and new versions :)

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:17 pm
by fsw
Kale,
if you want to go... then go.

Sorry couldn't resist :D

Take care mate.

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:37 pm
by garretthylltun
A long "good bye" post is not a technique used in "fading away" ya know :P

Good luck on your new ventures and have fun doing it too. :-)

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:06 pm
by Marco2007
What the hell is going on now?
Kale and PB (two Top-guys) are gone, a german user wants to accuse another user...

Why are people so super-sensitive? I don`t get it.
Different views...who cares?
Sometimes the wrong words are used, when arguing...who cares?

But I think, this is still the nicest community :-)

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:59 pm
by idle
sorry to see you go kale your poignant insightful comments will be missed
Think your contribution of a "A beginners guide to programming" sums it up well
Cheers

Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:22 pm
by Num3
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Re: I'm doing a PB too.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:32 pm
by djes
:(
All of that for this bloaty and not-so-nice OOP ? There's new programming paradigms (better than OOP, even if it could be cool!), but all of them rely on processors and machine code. With PB, we're so close to that! You'll miss it, believe me :)