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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by theogott.

I was just looking over the new features (DLL-creation ...) and I think what missing is someone who writes a simple understandable EXAMPLE-CODE for each of the features.

Maybe some short Explanation. So even Beginners would have a chance to start with PureBasic.

Why don't you write a BOOK, Fred !
Make PB more popular and give people the chance to learn it ...

Currently I guess I'd have to experiment a lot before I could do some things with PB.

HOW can I transfer strings from PB to Visual Basic ? How is the Declaration part in VB ? How do I do that with other variable-types ? ... etc.

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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by tinman.

I was just looking over the new features (DLL-creation ...) and I think what missing is someone who writes a simple understandable EXAMPLE-CODE for each of the features.

It takes some time to do stuff like that, or maybe it is just me being very slow. I run an unofficial site for another programming language on another system and am in the process of writing some docs for it. Even just going through the simple stuff, explaining it simply and writing (and testing! the examples takes quite a while.

Why don't you write a BOOK, Fred !
Make PB more popular and give people the chance to learn it ...

As if he doesn't have enough to do But seriously, I think there is a group of PB programmers who were going to get together and write a book (or at least a full how to code in PB document). There was a very long thread about it about a month back.

HOW can I transfer strings from PB to Visual Basic ? How is the Declaration part in VB ? How do I do that with other variable-types ? ... etc.

Is there any point in writing a "Here's how to convert your VB source to PB or vice versa" book? If you know how to code in both languages, you can figure that stuff out yourself.


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(Win98first ed. + SP1, PB3.10)

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by flim.

I just want 3D game library like DB and B3D.

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by theogott.

I just want 3D game library like DB and B3D.

§d-Libs ? Then consequently open a new thread with that wish. This thread is about the documentation .

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>>> If you know how to code in both languages, you can figure that stuff out yourself.

Just don't try to go "on the market" with an product and this description. ("you can figure that stuff out yourself"). I doubt that is going to be a success.

EXAMPLES:
- I am using VB, everything is well documented, I can download ton's of sourcecode from http://www.planetsourcode.com .

- I am using PowerBasic. It has support-Forum that is really worth to take a look at. Maybe you can take a lot of source-code, ASM-Explanations
take a look at:

http://www.powerbasic.com/support/forum ... 00130.html !

etc. from there and just change it a bit. However if I need something, 90% can already be found there.

- Euphoria: I am goint to http://www.rapideuphoria.com and ... there is a so called "Archive" where you can get many things to make a quick-start with a project.

That is "state-of-the-art".

And Purebasic ? Seems everyone is just keeping his "own" code for himself.
All you get is inside the "Examples"-Folder. Just take a look at the sites
above and compare.

Where is the archive with 500 Programms ?

I'd sent you some, but I am still struggling with the "how to do them.". And I think many others would be able to work faster also if tehre would be more examples.

There needs to be a place with a collection od thousands of downloadable Example Progamms.

You have to manage two programming languages (Blizbasic ?). WHY NOT put some of these things together, a archive for Pure&Blitz ?

Thanks
--Theo


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Edited by - theogott on 12 May 2002 09:13:50

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.

And Purebasic ? Seems everyone is just keeping his "own" code for himself.
All you get is inside the "Examples"-Folder. Just take a look at the sites
above and compare.

Where is the archive with 500 Programms ?

There needs to be a place with a collection od thousands of downloadable Example Progamms.

Where do you get the idea that "Seems everyone is just keeping his "own" code for himself." ?????? Have you EVER visited http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb/ and seen the example code there, the libraries, links and free mini-apps??????

PureBasic is a young language with a small community of people, many of whom program for a living and don't have time to do everything but they do what they can when they can. We will have an archive of 500+ programs one day when there are enough people using PureBasic and enough hours in the day. I try to do what I can but don't know enough and Paul, who runs that site you obviously have never heard of has been fantastic, offering a site to help beginners and offering help and advice, especially when his own life is so busy. Still, it hasn't stopped me from contributing my 'beginnerish' efforts.

Visit his site first and then tell us how it "Seems everyone is just keeping his "own" code for himself."

Have fun there, I do daily :):)


Fangles

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by theogott.

Visit his site first and then tell us how it "Seems everyone is just keeping his "own" code for himself."

Thanks for that tip. The link to this site needs to be on the official PB-Site not somewhere hidden where noone can find it.

Your daughter is not as big as the other one, but she is really beautiful.
Will say "the site-design" is even better then those from others.

Maybe you can make this archive more "official" and find a way that ALL people using PB contribute small "snippets" to this archive.

The quality is already there. Now it needs to grow more large ...

Thanks for the link !


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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> I am using VB, everything is well documented, I can download ton's of
> sourcecode from http://www.planetsourcode.com .

This isn't surprising: VB is more than 10 years old and written/maintained by
the world's biggest software company (Microsoft). How do you expect PureBasic
to compete with that, at this time of its life?

> And Purebasic ? Seems everyone is just keeping his "own" code for himself.
> All you get is inside the "Examples"-Folder. Just take a look at the sites
> above and compare.

These forums are the official support for PureBasic. In fact, this forum is
fully searchable with many examples showing how to do things. I can't count
the number of times I've seen newbies asking questions here, that already
exist and could be found if they just used the Search function instead...

> There needs to be a place with a collection od thousands of downloadable
> Example Progamms.

A start is http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb/ and it's getting bigger all the
time. Also, you can convert the many examples at http://www.planetsourcecode.com to
PureBasic from VB without too much hassle -- they're both BASIC, after all.

> You have to manage two programming languages (Blizbasic ?).

Fred (PureBasic's author) has nothing to do with BlitzBasic, so I don't know
where you got that idea from...


PB - Registered PureBasic Coder

Edited by - PB on 12 May 2002 14:26:00

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.

Thanks for that tip. The link to this site needs to be on the official PB-Site not somewhere hidden where noone can find it.

Maybe you can make this archive more "official" and find a way that ALL people using PB contribute small "snippets" to this archive.

The quality is already there. Now it needs to grow more large ...

Thanks for the link !

1. Daughter??? What are you talking about (confused and scratching head).
2. Link isn't hidden, it's on Paul's page of links. There are no links in the forum because it isn't a web page but links to Paul's site, code examples and the official IRC chat room are often mentioned as is tons of code examples.

Use the SEARCH function at the top of this form to search for all things and you will find them.

3. Want to make it bigger?? Then contribute and stop complaining about the size!!

No offence Theogott but you seem to be doing a lot of complaining and not contributing. People are doing the best that they can.

Regards.


Fangles

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by tinman.

>>> If you know how to code in both languages, you can figure that stuff out yourself.

Just don't try to go "on the market" with an product and this description. ("you can figure that stuff out yourself"). I doubt that is going to be a success.

That was a reply to your comment asking for documentation specifically on how to convert VB source to PB. Do you see any books called "How to convert C code to assembly"? No, you learn both languages, or enough to understand the one you do not normally use, and then you should know how to do the conversion.


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It's not minimalist - I'm increasing efficiency by reducing input effort.
(Win98first ed. + SP1, PB3.10)

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by theogott.

No missunderstandings please.

1. My complaining is constructive not destructive.
I am speaking as a newbie what is missing for me compared to other
sites/languages.

2. No question that PB is new. But then ... it must be allowed to say what
needs to be done. You can have my code after I have done some. At the
moment I am still struggling with the environment cause I am missing the
necessary examples. (I am trying to improve my ASM .

3. There is a saying in germany - "Other fathers have nice daughters too."
It says that there are always alternatives, if someone thinks he is the
ONLY and the BEST. I used it to make a comparison between the two sites.

4. My question is not HOW to convert VB -> PB cause PB has no Visual
environment and cannot have anything like VB in the next 6 month cause
the effort of work is simply to big. So I want to use PB to write
small and fast DLL's for use in VB.
So I did not do so - yet - cause I did nowhere find any example HOW
the declaration on the VB side has to be and HOW the Datatypes on both
sides harmonize. (ONE side is the PB - DLL - the other side is a VB
"surface-program").

5. After all its all basic, but PB has its strength's and VB has its
strength's. I want to use each of them for exactly that.
Just struggling with the interface between the two ...
Example: Want to make a small Packer but with an VB-Surface, that calls
a DLL with the MEM-Packing-Feature from PB.
Need to Load the file into a string -> pass the string from the VB Programm
to the PB - DLL, then return the packed string to the VB.

If you can write a small prototype about that you'd ´really help me .
Needless to say that "other fathers daughters" deliver this information
(e.g. Powerbasic). However, I'd prefer PB for some reasons, but its heavy
cause I'd have to work on "Trial and Error". And I don't like that.
I prefer not to make experiments when I want to write a program.


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