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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.

Now available for download...

PureVision, the Visual Form Designer for PureBasic.
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/purevision


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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

Does the "hardware fingerprint" protection mean I can only use
PureVision on one PC? If so, that's extremely bad... I use up
to 4 different PCs to code my apps, depending on where I am at
the time (home/work), and I don't want to pay $15 x 4 just to
use the one app...

Also, the demo version should let you export to a PureBasic
source... how else can we evaluate it properly without this
most important feature? Moving gadgets around is one thing,
but we need to see how it creates PureBasic code too. Maybe
limit the number of controls on the demo to 10 or something,
if you're worried that people won't pay for it.

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Berikco.

Originally posted by PB

Does the "hardware fingerprint" protection mean I can only use
PureVision on one PC? If so, that's extremely bad... I use up
to 4 different PCs to code my apps, depending on where I am at
the time (home/work), and I don't want to pay $15 x 4 just to
use the one app...

Also, the demo version should let you export to a PureBasic
source.
Maybe limit the number of controls on the demo to 10 or something.

My idea to paul, i have new PC at home about every 3 months, because i do the new hardware testing for the company i work.
And also use 4 PC's at home in network.
Maybe use Fred's system, send user a link to full version by mail?

Regards,

Berikco

http://www.benny.zeb.be

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.

Nice program Paul !

Fred - AlphaSND

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.

Originally posted by Paul

Now available for download...

PureVision, the Visual Form Designer for PureBasic.
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/purevision

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I knew it!!
The complaints have started but nobody has bought the software (that I know of).
Good program Paul.

Fangles woz ear orright den?

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> The complaints have started but nobody has bought the software (that I know of).

My two "complaints" don't require buying the app, Fang. In fact,
there's no way I can buy it until I know the answers to both.

If I buy it now, it'll only work on my one home PC, as far as I can
tell. What happens when I'm at work then? Do my job instead?

And, like I said, I need to see the output generated before I can
decide if it's worth buying... it unfortunately seems that the app
is far too restricted (at the present time, anyway).

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by freak.

Hey Paul,

can you post some genetared Code here?
As Pb said, the output Code is also very important to me.

The software looks really good so far.

Timo

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by blueb.

One 'small' niggling detail is:

It appears as though you need my hard drive serial number to make up the registration number. Bad idea.

I just replaced my hard drive two weeks ago. If I would of had PureVision installed I would have to get hold of PureVision's creator (assuming he/she hasn't gone out of business) and beg them for a new registration number. This bugs me to no end. Sorry.

I had one software vendor take a combination of my hard drive serial number and my machine name!!! to create a registration number. They wanted to prevent me from using their program more than once on a network! Sheese! There are much better ways!

This is certainly not a complaint... but a niggling detail

Regards,
--blueb

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.

Does the "hardware fingerprint" protection mean I can only use
PureVision on one PC? If so, that's extremely bad... I use up
to 4 different PCs to code my apps, depending on where I am at
the time (home/work), and I don't want to pay $15 x 4 just to
use the one app...

Sorry PB but that complaint falls on deaf ears here
If a person is using 4 different PC's then he is running 4 copies of Windows which runs at about $150 each for XP Home. That comes to $600. If you have not bought a license for each copy... that is of course illegal. If you read the license agreement for 99% of the software you buy off the shelf, you are only allowed to run the software on a single workstation.
Mircosoft also requires a registration code generated from a hardware fingerprint of your system. If you reinstall, you must contact Microsoft for a new code. A fingerprint is a normal thing in todays society.
Regardless I am not charging $150 each, it is a very low $15 and is a very productive application.

Also, the demo version should let you export to a PureBasic
source... how else can we evaluate it properly without this
most important feature? Moving gadgets around is one thing,
but we need to see how it creates PureBasic code too.

If you look in the folder where you installed the PureVision Demo, you will find a folder called "Demo" (my fault I guess for not adding icons to your desktop to point everyone in the right direction).
This "Demo" folder contains a premade PureVision project you can load into PureVision. It also contains the 2 files that are exported when you Export the Demo project with a registered version. And finally it contains a small sample app that shows how to easily integrate everything together into a single program with PureBasic.

I just replaced my hard drive two weeks ago. If I would of had PureVision installed I would have to get hold of PureVision's creator (assuming he/she hasn't gone out of business) and beg them for a new registration number. This bugs me to no end. Sorry.

Much like Microsoft's hardware fingerprints, this is a relaxed print that allows you to make minor system changes without requiring a new code. Changing your harddrive will most likely not affect things.
Microsoft requires you to contact them for a registration code to run it's products. There could come a day when it closes it's doors or is forced by the courts to shut down (of course very unlikely). I'm sure Microsoft plans on being around for a long time... and so do I


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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Berikco.

Mmm, its not a complain, i tested the Beta versions of the program, and see the output, wich is very good, and have ordered a full version now. Its the best Visual designer for PB i see released until now. But i'm in the position that my job requires me to change hardware and install new PC many times a year.
My RAIDmonitor app is under development on 2 different servers now, all with 64bit PCIX SCSI RAIDcontroller (so no IDE HD serial number). I have 4 computers at home, and 1 in the office. So PB is installed on 7 computers.(uups, do i need 7 licenses Fred? )
My wife started 3 years ago with here driver license, bought a CD for this.
Now, after 1.5 years break, she wants to continue, but cant use CD anymore.
First time had to phone to a computer, who told me te installation code....now nobody picks up the phone.....

One of the reasons i like PureBasic so much, is i can copy quickly to clients computer, test and change my app, remove it in seconds, without leaving multimegabyte garbage on the computer.

Im more for the principle of charging per developer, like TvicHW32 i bought...just my opinion...

Regards,

Berikco

Hey Paul, you hit post quicker than me

http://www.benny.zeb.be

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> If a person is using 4 different PC's then he is running 4 copies
> of Windows which runs at about $150 each for XP Home. That comes
> to $600. If you have not bought a license for each copy... that
> is of course illegal.

I am using 1 at home and 3 PCs at work -- all paid for, by myself and
work combined. I have every legal right to use work's PCs in any way
I want -- just to clarify!

> Sorry PB but that complaint falls on deaf ears here

No worries... it's your app, and your rules.

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.

Originally posted by Berikco
I have 4 computers at home, and 1 in the office. So PB is installed on 7 computers.(uups, do i need 7 licenses Fred? )

No, as PureBasic use an User based licence, not a computer based license which sounds more logical to me. Microsoft try to make as money as possible and force the upgrade when chaning computer. That's their choice, not mine. I find the fingerprint stuff very annoying, but, once again, it's my point of view...

Fred - AlphaSND

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by tinman.

Hi Paul,

Could you supply a demo exe of PureVision which shows off all it's features (especially "Group Gadgets for Fast Moving & Sizing ")? Or at least more than the demo code supplied.

What installer toolbox did you use to create the installer program (if any)?

Apart from that I had a very quick play with it and found the following:

- For some reason the text gadgets had a different background colour from the window.
- Having to use the navigation buttons instead of being able to drag the gadgets with the mouse is a hassle.
- So is not being able to highlight a gadget in the form designer (the list of gadgets) window and press the delete key.
- Ticking a property causes the list box to flick back up to the top instead of staying where it is.

Thanks.


--
It's not minimalist - I'm increasing efficiency by reducing input effort.
(Win98first ed. + SP1, PB3.40)

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.

Any questions regarding PureVision or its functionality, etc. please post them on the PureVision Forum.
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/forum

I don't want to offend anyone by pluggin up this PureBasic Forum with PureVision related discussion.

Thank you.


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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.

Originally posted by PB

> The complaints have started but nobody has bought the software (that I know of).

If I buy it now, it'll only work on my one home PC, as far as I can
tell. What happens when I'm at work then? Do my job instead?

Of course!! My boss used to say that's what we get paid for and not to play with our own code. Of course, you know I tried. Used to take my laptop every day during slack periods and they didn't like that. Can't win

Fangles woz ear orright den?