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Jamagic?!?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:02 pm
by techjunkie
Does anyone know where Clickteam moved all Jamagic stuff? Not a word about it on their new website - and they refuse to answer any mail about Jamagic!
http://www.clickteam.com/eng/index.php
What a rip-off!! a useless unfinished product for a high price!! and now unsupported...

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:51 pm
by J. Baker
That's todays product support for you. Get paid and run.
I have a similar situation with one of ULEADs products but they do you reply to your email. Just nothing that had to do with your question. And when you ask them to quit avoiding the question to their buggy software, they get mad.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:39 pm
by WishMaster
Here in Germany you have to support your products for at least 6 months (warranty).
Isn't there something similar in Sweden?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:56 pm
by ts-soft
WishMaster wrote:Here in Germany you have to support your products for at least 6 months (warranty).
Isn't there something similar in Sweden?
2 Years
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gew%C3%A4hrleistung
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:11 pm
by WishMaster
Yes, but after 6 monts you have to proof that the defect was already there when you bought the product.
Re: Jamagic?!?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:33 am
by traumatic
Hi techjunkie,
I asked myself exactly the same some months ago and was about to
contact you asking you about the current situation since your signature
once said you were using jamagic...
ClickWiki wrote:
Clickteam announced in 2005 that Jamagic was being discontinued, due to poor sales and the original developer leaving the company. Some users have started working on 3rd party compilers for the language since this announcement.
It's dead...
(btw, the old french pages are still up...
http://www.clickteam.com/fr/jamagic.htm)
[german]
gewährleistung und garantie sind zum einen zwei verschiedene dinge
und zum anderen tritt nach 6 monaten (wie von WishMaster geschrieben)
die sog. Beweislastumkehr ein.
[/german]
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:43 am
by minirop
if you go on
http://www.clickteam.com/eng/prodindex.php jamagic is in "retired software"
Re: Jamagic?!?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:43 pm
by techjunkie
traumatic wrote:Hi techjunkie,
I asked myself exactly the same some months ago and was about to
contact you asking you about the current situation since your signature
once said you were using jamagic...
ClickWiki wrote:
Clickteam announced in 2005 that Jamagic was being discontinued, due to poor sales and the original developer leaving the company. Some users have started working on 3rd party compilers for the language since this announcement.
It's dead...
(btw, the old french pages are still up...
http://www.clickteam.com/fr/jamagic.htm)
[german]
gewährleistung und garantie sind zum einen zwei verschiedene dinge
und zum anderen tritt nach 6 monaten (wie von WishMaster geschrieben)
die sog. Beweislastumkehr ein.
[/german]
Thank you for the information!!

That's typical - but I've asked Clickteam for a free version of TGF2 on their forum (Yeah - I also own TGF), so...
but all is really strange, when I last had contact with Clickteam (when they answered my mail) about 6 month ago. They said that Jamagic should continue and they still sold it on their site.
Re: Jamagic?!?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:48 pm
by WishMaster
[Duits]
gewährleistung und garantie sind zum einen zwei verschiedene dinge
und zum anderen tritt nach 6 monaten (wie von WishMaster geschrieben)
die sog. Beweislastumkehr ein.
Das ist mir bewusst und so habe ich das doch auch geschrieben, oder nicht?
[/Duits]
Re: Jamagic?!?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:22 pm
by traumatic
WishMaster wrote:[Duits]
Das ist mir bewusst und so habe ich das doch auch geschrieben, oder nicht?
[/Duits]
yep, exactly what I wrote
Re: Jamagic?!?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:23 pm
by fsw
traumatic wrote:Hi techjunkie,
ClickWiki wrote:
Clickteam announced in 2005 that Jamagic was being discontinued, due to poor sales and the original developer leaving the company. Some users have started working on 3rd party compilers for the language since this announcement.
It's dead...
This makes me wonder why should programmers stick to commercial compilers

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:25 pm
by fsw
Is the retired software full working software
What's the catch

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:21 pm
by White Eagle
The old Jamagic forums are still available, but they are locked.
Jamagic was dropped. Although the 2D side was great, the 3D side was horrid. There was an official rumor that Jamagic might be reconsidered after MMF2 was released and ported to use the irrichilt (sp?) engine, but I think they have officially decided to cut their losses.
I still use it for some 2D stuff and PocketPC development, and haven't had any issues.
FWIW, Jamagic's demise was announced almost a year in advance, before MMF2 was finally released, and they started the new forums and removed all the Jamagic info. It shouldn't come as a shock to active users.