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I bought Purebasic yesterday after testing the Windows demo version. Since I am moving away from Windows, I was interested in the Linux and Mac versions, I guess I should have tested the Linux, and Mac versions.

I was sadly disapointed in myself (for not checking it out more throughrougly) because the Visual designer does not support Linux or the Mac.

Is there any hope that in the forseable future this feature will be available for the Linux and Mac versions?

Hopeful!

The new Visual Designer should run on Linux and Mac when it's finished as far as I know.

Well that is good to hear, I don't suppose there is a rough estimate of when?

For now I could strat writting some of the software in Windows and stay clear of Libraries that Linux and OSX do not support. That will keep me busy for quite a while.

I noticed that the demo required me to install the SDL libraries, Is that what they use for multi-media access? If so how responsive is it? I would need access to sound cards at 24bit 192KHz sampling and a small windows with graphics at the same time.

Below is a sample of a program I would like to make a PureBasic version or something like it

http://www.hpsdr.com/Public/Photos/PowerSDR.JPG

Oh, another radio amateur...
I'll get my license in january or february. ^^

It's been a year since I first asked, is this a dead issue?

Is there anyone working on making Visual Designer work on Linux and Mac?

Is assistance in this area needed?

Thanks

Cecil, sometimes known as Don Seglio Batuna
k5nwa

Blessed are the cracked for they shall let the light in.

There is no official gui designer, the unofficial one is still Windows only.

I really wish somebody would create one for the Linux version of PB. I don't know much about Linux, so this is beyond my skill level. Certainly with the talent in the community, there are people capable of doing it.

The irony is PureBasic is advertised as a "visual basic compiler" even though it has no official gui designer :roll:

Is assistance in this area needed?

I would say YES!

Who owns the code for Visual designer? PureBasic or is it an individual?

The reason I ask if it's PureBasic there is a chance that they may allow someone else to look at the source code and change it to work with Mac and Linux with appropriate non-disclosure agreements. If it's an individual then the chances are pretty slim to none.

There is no point starting from scratch, it would be far easier to take the existing code and making it work than to start from scratch. That way there is continuity across the different platforms.

It's a shame, I originally bought PureBasic as a way to transition away from Windows but as it stands it doesn't look like it's ever going to work out.

Are there any other cross platform Visual Code generators available for PureBasic?

Cecil
k5nwa
www.softrockradio.org

"Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let the light in"

AFAIK, there are not any cross-platform GUI designers for PB.

As to who owns it, I can't really answer that question. The official site for the visual designer is: http://www.purebasic.be

I share your sentiments about moving to Linux. I was hoping to do so myself, but when 4.0 for Linux still shipped with no GUI designer, I kinda gave up on that.

Since the last update for the GUI designer was Oct 13, 2006, I really wouldn't hold out hope on any updates in the future. I think it is pretty much a take it or leave it thing right now.

Note that the Visual Designer is still at Alpha stage - Alpha 15.

Now I'm sure read somewhere else that once the developers got Windows, Mac and Linux versions all at the same level and released at the same time, they would be working on bringing the Visual Designer to all platforms... is this still the case or is that my wishful dreaming?

Alternatively, you could try the Glade2PB (http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtopic.php?t=25813) - that is use Glade to generate the forms, and then use the converter to generate all your code. Not the built in solution you are looking for, but it is a solution non the less.

I haven't tried it myself yet, as I am still working on building the client & server framework before I start delving into writing large apps where I have to worry about the visuals.
I will however be trying it out if the VD hasn't reached us when I get to the point where I need one.

Flaming Amoeba wrote:There is no official gui designer, the unofficial one is still Windows only.

I really wish somebody would create one for the Linux version of PB. I don't know much about Linux, so this is beyond my skill level. Certainly with the talent in the community, there are people capable of doing it.

The irony is PureBasic is advertised as a "visual basic compiler" even though it has no official gui designer :roll:

Where do you get tis nonsense?

This forum is about the official Visual Designer, or did you never looked in the about window of VD?

It is provided for free, so there is no guarantee when its updated.

Who owns the code, easy, this is also in the about box

It's a shame, I originally bought PureBasic as a way to transition away from Windows but as it stands it doesn't look like it's ever going to work out.

i use the VD or PureForm /gdesign under Linux / Wine. Also doing GUI under win works ( ok you have windows alike elements ) - but still hell of a lot faster than retyping all by hand.

Thalius

Berikco wrote:Where do you get tis nonsense?

PB wrote:In all seriousness now, let me go over some PureBasic history for you. It wasn't originally released with a GUI editor. It was all strictly code. Then the Visual Designer (VD) was released, for free, by a PureBasic fan who later became a team member. The VD is still not officially part of PureBasic, ie. it comes with it, but only because Fred allowed it to be distributed with it for the benefit of those who want it. But it remains free and unsupported, with no promises of updates, bug fixes, etc.

I will ignore anything PB says in the future

I coded it together with Fred, so this statement is not true
In fact, it's totally wrong.

The first Visual designer was released on march 17, 2003 as part of PureBasic 3.60
It was coded by me and Fred in about 4 months time.

Because of the heavy use of API, and because the PureBasic version for Linux was not up to date with the windows version, it was never ported to Linux. Actually, we once had a VD Linux version that compiled, but it could only load projects, no gadgets could be added because we had to comment a lot of code to make it compile.

The new version 4, now alpha 15 uses almost no API, because most of it is now replaced by Native PB commands, and because it uses the ASCII PB files to save the projects, this was a very big change. This means the new VD is coded from scratch, almost no code is reused.

Why is it not ready....lack of time.
Just after the release of the first version, i started my own IT company.
This together with my kids, triplet boys age 8 takes almost al my spare time. http://www.purearea.net/pb/english/meet ... rsheim.htm

Fred noticed this, and promised to work on te VD again when all 3 PB versions would be in sync and up to date....
Also without Fred's help, i found some time the past weeks, and should be able to release the next alpha this year.

Just keep in mind you did not payed for it, and i did not make money of it...

My actually project is a Designer for Linux. Move and size gadget are ready. Drop gadget to form in work.
It´s many to do, but i think the first version come at januar 2008.

I am sure many will be looking forward to that