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I feel discrimanted against ;-)

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:14 pm
by Nik
Well guys what can I say, I'm a primary Mac/Linux user and I am a fan of Open Source software but my school keeps trying to make me steal software, here is an example:
In school we have an art class where we use phtoshop, because the works done there need to be refined at home I can either buy Photosho wich is idiotic because I don't need it, I have Gimp and thats sufficient. Then when I need to send documents to one of my teachers, I need to either use OO to produce .doc files. Or I can send them PDFs that's not a real problem but it is annoying. This is not only idiotic from my standpoint but when I see that my school pay 10 000 € for their photoshop licences I think this can't be true I mean for our tasks The Gimp would be more then sufficient and we all would learn a bit about freedom, it's not like the students need to learn it because that's what they will use later, I mean anyone familiar with Gimpshop will have no problems learning phtoshop, the stuff we do isn't even advanced so they willhave to learn it anyway. If students would be using free software I think this would also help to boost it in normal business, we are the bosses of tomorrows companys.

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:53 pm
by lexvictory
yeah, but photoshop is much simpler in my opinion..... and sometimes much more powerfull; gimp doesnt have layer effects like photoshop (or it just doesnt support reading them from .psd files)

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:58 pm
by Nik
I think the latter is the case, however we are a school and never touch such areas.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:54 am
by Karbon
Sorry brother, GIMP doesn't hold much of a candle to Photoshop. The Academic licenses are really cheap, too.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:55 am
by Thalius
Sorry depends what you do GIMP > Photoshop . Only using CMYK for prints GIMP needs a plugin and is kidna unhandy there.

However GIMP works bit different - i used PS for a long time til i workwise went to Linux and got more and more hooked with GIMP. After you get used to the UI its great - plus scriptable layers / functions Anims are just pure love =P ( especialyl if you have to do alot of game graphics ... )

ps. spelling sucks its 6am here .. =)

Cheers, Thalius

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:23 pm
by freak
> I see that my school pay 10 000 € for their photoshop licences

At least your school payed for them. At the school i was on, they used quite a number of
programs they had no licenses for. (including Photoshop as well)
Its a shame really. How do they expect to teach the kids of today the value of
computer software when the school itself is stealing it.

Imho the schools should try to promote more alternative solutions to Windows etc.
Every kid knows how to use Windows from home, you don't need to teach them that.
Showing them that there are other systems as well would be a good step though.
Its amazing to see some new people here at university on the unix workstations for the first time.
These are people who want to study computer science, and they never even
touched anything else but Windows.

I think teaching a bit Linux basics would not be a bad thing in schools
instead of the usual "Webdesign with (our stolen copy of) dreamweaver"-course. :)

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:07 pm
by thamarok
freak wrote:> I see that my school pay 10 000 € for their photoshop licences

At least your school payed for them. At the school i was on, they used quite a number of
programs they had no licenses for. (including Photoshop as well)
Its a shame really. How do they expect to teach the kids of today the value of
computer software when the school itself is stealing it.

Imho the schools should try to promote more alternative solutions to Windows etc.
Every kid knows how to use Windows from home, you don't need to teach them that.
Showing them that there are other systems as well would be a good step though.
Its amazing to see some new people here at university on the unix workstations for the first time.
These are people who want to study computer science, and they never even
touched anything else but Windows.

I think teaching a bit Linux basics would not be a bad thing in schools
instead of the usual "Webdesign with (our stolen copy of) dreamweaver"-course. :)
In the school where I was, the teacher had KaZaa in the desktop and if you'll go to a program folder of a "licensed" program, you'll see there is always a "crack" or "keygen" folder. It sucks really bad.

Re: I feel discrimanted against ;-)

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:10 pm
by traumatic
My 2 ct.:

Photoshop is the industry standard, thus schools teaching photoshop makes
perfectly sense. As said by Karbon, the academic licenses are reasonably
priced as well. Stealing software on the other hand is NOT OK of course.