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KGB Archiver, A flop?

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:38 pm
by GeoTrail
Has anyone tried KGB Archiver?

I tried it and was extremely dissapointed.
With a text file at 3.1 MB it took 4 minutes and 4 seconds to compress, the result was a 357.2 KB file.
I compared the result with WinRar, it took.... well, not sure, less then a second I think, went too fast to time. Result was a 212 KB file.

Website is here http://kgbarchiver.sourceforge.net/

It says on the site it is the best ultimate archiver in the world.
Ohh please!!!

Re: KGB Archiver, A flop?

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:09 pm
by NoahPhense
GeoTrail wrote:Has anyone tried KGB Archiver?

I tried it and was extremely dissapointed.
With a text file at 3.1 MB it took 4 minutes and 4 seconds to compress, the result was a 357.2 KB file.
I compared the result with WinRar, it took.... well, not sure, less then a second I think, went too fast to time. Result was a 212 KB file.

Website is here http://kgbarchiver.sourceforge.net/

It says on the site it is the best ultimate archiver in the world.
Ohh please!!!
I don't agree with their speed testing. But this is what makes them
slower: AES-256

Not bad actually .. cause AES really bloats things up.

I'll stick with my winrar ..

- np

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:12 pm
by dracflamloc
tarballs for the win =)

But yea... using AES-256 is what increases the size and time, and actually thats a fairly impressive result considering.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:30 pm
by KarLKoX
Saying that using AES256 is the cause of this slow compression time can't be the reason, i use this algo and can compress a 40 mb file in 10/15 seconds, along with SHA-256 + Zlib compression.
The slowdown seems to come from elsewhere.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:39 pm
by thefool
Geotrail; i tested this with a few different files. A MP3 file, a text file and an exe file.

KGB won over winrar maximum all the time; but it wasnt worth for the time..

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:55 pm
by GeoTrail
thefool wrote:Geotrail; i tested this with a few different files. A MP3 file, a text file and an exe file.

KGB won over winrar maximum all the time; but it wasnt worth for the time..
Hmmm sounds strange.
Did you change any settings in it? Remember KGB archiver is auto set to max compression I think, and WinRAR isn't.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:57 pm
by thefool
KGB is set to "good". thats 3 steps from the maximum compression!

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:09 am
by GeoTrail
Hmm strange.
What can be causing that?
I mean, a text file it the easiest thing to compress.

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:31 am
by thefool
no idea :?

i also tested with some very small text files and they all got smaller.

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:44 am
by GeoTrail
I just tried an mpg file at 1.3 MB. WinRAR resulted in 1.06 MB and KGS archiver ended at 1.02 MB. Not a big difference, but it's strange, text files are easier to compress.

But still, in my mind, WinRAR beats it flat, even though it doesn't compress as well on some files, it is SOOOO muucchhhh faster ;)

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:59 am
by Fluid Byte
Has anyone tried KGB Archiver?
Yes! It's really a flop compared to WinRAR wich is my personal non+ultra. Sure, KGB gets higher compression rates most of the time but what price for? Right! Time!

Honestly, it's not worth the hassle...

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:32 am
by Joakim Christiansen
Fluid Byte wrote:Honestly, it's not worth the hassle...
Did I hear someone mention Hass...elhoff?
Image
Is Hasselhoff impregnating the dog in that picture?

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:04 pm
by GeoTrail
Joakim Christiansen wrote:
Fluid Byte wrote:Honestly, it's not worth the hassle...
Did I hear someone mention Hass...elhoff?
Image
Is Hasselhoff impregnating the dog in that picture?
Oh man, you just had to go there didn't you :lol:

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:11 pm
by gnozal
GeoTrail wrote:But still, in my mind, WinRAR beats it flat, even though it doesn't compress as well on some files, it is SOOOO muucchhhh faster ;)
Yes, WinRAR is great, and 7-ZIP a good freeware alternative.

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:21 pm
by Nik
Nothing beats tar and companions^^ And you can use tar to write to tape^^(Thats what it actually was made for). And the best thing of all you can use it modular, you can for example pipe output directly through gunzip that means everything happens on the fly. You can for example calculate a very large PI and while calculating compress it using only a pipe and gunzip.