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Delphi Professional
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:05 pm
by NoahPhense
I might be getting Delphi Professional.
Delphi 2006 Professional is a complete environment for the visual design, compilation, and debugging of Windows applications. Programs can be targeted for Win32 and Microsoft .NET applications using a common source code base. The Professional edition also provides basic database connectivity and select ECO framework features.
Rapid application development with support for Delphi, C, C++, and C# programming languages
Visual WYSIWYG client and Web application development
Local database connectivity for Borland InterBase,® dBase,® Paradox,® ADO, MySQL,® MSDE,® and Access
Basic object-relational mapping and transparent local xml object persistence features
Win32, Microsoft .NET, and ASP.NET support
http://www.borland.com/us/products/delphi/index.html
I'm really only interested in the Delphi and C++, not the others..
Any thoughts.
- np
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:12 pm
by srod
Jeepers! Have you seen the price?
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
by ts-soft
I use the explorer edition of delphi win32. it's freeware, for personal and commercial use.
http://www.turboexplorer.com/
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:46 pm
by Character
Jeepers! Have you seen the price?
$3,490.00
Arrghhhh
(I dropped out of my chair on the floor..)
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:50 pm
by srod
I might have a crack at that myself.
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:36 pm
by NoahPhense
Character wrote:Jeepers! Have you seen the price?
$3,490.00
Arrghhhh
(I dropped out of my chair on the floor..)
Yeah, that would be for the full Architect Version. But the Professional
Version is $1000. I'm currently looking at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :DBS:US:11
I'm willing to spend
$600. The only differences between these versions
is the amount of controls they come with. But it still the same compilers.
- np
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:51 pm
by Kiffi
> I'm willing to spend
$600.
why do not first take a look at the explorer-editions from Borland?
Greetings ... Kiffi
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:49 pm
by Tipperton
I looked at these (specifically Delphi), but then I saw:
From the Turbo Explorer web site: wrote:You will need to download two files. The prereqs.zip file contains additional run-time files required by Turbo Explorer that may not be currently installed on your computer. This includes the Microsoft.NET 1.1 runtime and SDK, the J# run-time, InternetExplorer 6.01, and MSXML.
Ick! I think I'll pass...
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:17 am
by White Eagle
If you download the ISO version, and burn it to a disk, you will not need to download those other files, as they are included in the ISO.
That said, I do not necessarily endorse using anything .NET based.
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:55 am
by NoahPhense
White Eagle wrote:If you download the ISO version, and burn it to a disk, you will not need to download those other files, as they are included in the ISO.
That said, I do not necessarily endorse using anything .NET based.
Yeah, not interested in .NET, or C# .. only:
Delphi & C++ (win32).
I guess I can look at other options, I'm not opposed to it. But I assure
you (even not having touched the explorer version) that the professional
version IDE is going to be much smoother.
- np
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:16 am
by White Eagle
Yeah, not interested in .NET
The point was the IDE itself requires .NET to run.
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:22 am
by NoahPhense
White Eagle wrote:Yeah, not interested in .NET
The point was the IDE itself requires .NET to run.
Ah yes, I have 1.1 and 2.0 installed. Just don't plan to develop in it
unless I need to. I'm not unfamiliar with it. I had VB 6 Enterprise Edition,
all the bells and whistles. That's the version just before VB .NET came
out. Let's just say, when it did.. VB6 got sent out on ebay..
- np
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:28 am
by White Eagle
Let's just say, when it did.. VB6 got sent out on ebay..
LOL, I keep VB6 installed, but I switched to indie languages once the .NET version hit
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:33 am
by Dare
A few questions on turboexplorer.
1: Has anybody used this and is it any good?
2: For the version for standard (native) windows, do you still need the net framework (1.1) for this? That is, does the development environment require .net even though it writes for standard windows?
Site wrote:Turbo Delphi for Win32 is the only truly RAD development tool for the native Windows platform. You can develop ultra high-performance applications for the worlds most popular platform with no runtime deployment, fast compiles, and a highly productive IDE. With Turbo Delphi for Win32, you build your applications in the most solid, feature rich, and responsive RAD environment ever.
3: If net needed - I have .net 1.1 and 2 installed on one unit. IIRC, not all 1.1 versions were compatible, so should I uninstall it and install their .net if I decide to try this.
(I started a software house a while back. Couldn't get multiple seat licence for PureBasic so went with Visual Studio. But I would prefer to have something else there and maybe this is the go for the software house - personally I'll stick with PureBasic.)
Thanks!
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:14 am
by White Eagle
2: For the version for standard (native) windows, do you still need the net framework (1.1) for this? That is, does the development environment require .net even though it writes for standard windows?
Yes, the IDE requires .NET even though it compiles EXEs that do NOT use .NET
3: If net needed - I have .net 1.1 and 2 installed on one unit. IIRC, not all 1.1 versions were compatible, so should I uninstall it and install their .net if I decide to try this.
If you download the ISO version, it includes .NET an the other runtimes the IDE requires. I would think the setup for .NET would only update whatever is outdated on your system.
Even though he deleted his post (Yeah, I saw it), I do agree with "The Deleter" that we should stop discussing Delphi on Fred's boards.