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Did all the OS X users die or something? I feel so lonely here now.

-Garrett

Eheheh...

Maybe they are all testing BootCamp

garretthylltun wrote:Did all the OS X users die or something?

they are not dead. they just smell funny.

[SCNR]

Greetings ... Kiffi

Bah, we dont smell funny some of us are waiting ...

Using an Intel Mac I'm a new Mac user so I'm waiting too

Kiffi wrote:

garretthylltun wrote:Did all the OS X users die or something?

they are not dead. they just smell funny.

[SCNR]

Greetings ... Kiffi

Intel Mac also and waiting... it's going to be awesome when it comes. Just imagine what we are going to be able to do with V4

Intel Mac, also waiting .. .. . ... .. .. . .

PPC Mac Mini, and Waiting just plain sucks

-Garrett

PPC Mac Mini.
I am waiting for PB4, because I want to develop cross platform and my Win32 code is actually running on PB4.
Additionally I am waiting, that the Mac PB community is growing and we can expect some more ideas how to work with PB.
F.ex. I would like to have a solution for working with SQLite and MySQL. Both libs are available on Mac and already delivered with the system, but I don't know how to use it.
Futher I want to compile universal binaries, as everybody does on Mac.

Additionally the IDE and compile have a couple of bugs. Change language to German and take a look into preferences. It looks horrible.
Its no fun to work with the actual version on Mac.

Sometimes I take a look onto BlitzMax to see, how they progress. It sounds like more cross-platform as PB actually is.

Just downlaoded and Installed iTunes 7 on my Mac (come out a few hours ago) and I must say this is by far the most ugliest thing ever executed on my Mac (Including XCalc running with my Apple X-Server). I accept that some of the iLife Apps do have different styles they all make sense and even though they are different, they fit together but now comes iTunes 7 and I'm shocked, it does have new Scrollbars which are darn ugly and it is the ONLY Application which doesn't have those nice blue-.marble scrollbars, even uglier it also has different colors for it's ListView headers and all of these new Colors don't even try fitting with all other Colors in the System. Really that SUCKS maybe we could write to Apple...

Sorry for my language but Apple Software in my Eyes has to be pritty or it isn't Apple Software anymore...

BlitzMax is a bit more complicated than PureBasic, and one other thing
I've noticed about BlitzMax is that there are inconsistancies within it's
own syntax, such as commands that are typed as functions and functions
that are typed like commands. Really can throw ya off.

Another difference between the two is that PureBasic produced
executables are very very compact, and BlitzMax produced executables
are not. In it's defense though, if you want a smaller executable from
BlitzMax, then you need to specify the framework and modules you are
using. This can result in about a 1 meg difference in size.

Comparison:

[Bare bones text editor on Mac OS X without app icon]
PureBasic = 188 Kb
BlitzMax = 1.5 Mb
* But! if you declare the framework and specify the modules needed:
* BlitzMax = 524 Kb

Where BlitzMax does excel over PureBasic??? IT'S FREAKING IDE
DOESN'T CRASH ON A WIM! Otherwise, I'd prefer to use PureBasic.

One thing that does seem to draw me to BlitzMax is it's ability to include
C and C++, as well as Assmebly. I know PureBasic allows Assembly,
but I haven't a clue about Assembly, but can understand and barely use
C. I'm trying to learn C these days, so that was kind of an inspiration
to keep learning C while still programming in a form of basic.

A plus for PureBasic is that you do not need to purchase an additional
module for GUI programming. With BlitzMax, you need to purchase
MaxGui if you want Gui objects.

Price for PureBasic is what these days? $99 USD?
BlitzMax and MaxGui together is about $105 USD

End result?

PureBasic is what I really want to use, but it's just not matured (as of
3.94) to the point that I can fully do what I want and or need to do. But
at least what it has so far is consistant.

BlitzMax is very mature and I can do what I want and or need to do in
in it, but it's inconsistant syntax kind of turns me off, and can be a real
headache if you're not paying attention and type a function like a function
when it's suppose to be typed like a freaking command (and vice versa).

I really need the consistancy of the syntax in PureBasic, but with the
maturity of BlitzMax.

(Note: I am only speaking in reference to Mac OS X versions. So all
you Windows users and Linux users slither off back into your own
corners Somebody else would have to do a comparison of the
current Windows versions with each other. I'm sure PB4 on Windows
rocks the socks off BlitzMax and MaxGui for Windows.)

-Garrett

Nik wrote:Just downlaoded and Installed iTunes 7 on my Mac (come out a few hours ago) and I must say this is by far the most ugliest thing ever executed on my Mac

Thanks for the heads up... I know not to update my iTunes now.
-Garrett

Well not Updating is probably not a longterm solution, it's also not that bad from it's inside features but I mean Apple always is about the outside as well...
maybe one could start something like a request with other mac users.

Here is a lin k to a screenshot (from the Apple Homepage)
http://images.apple.com/itunes/store/im ... 060912.jpg

BTW: reading through some mac Forums it seems I'm the only one who complains^^

EDIT:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articl ... -features/
even calls it a rifinement lol I know it's also a matter of taste, but being the only softare around on OS X with non marble Scrollbars is in my eyes out of any taste^^

I agree with you Nik, I don't like the looks either. I really prefer that look
like part of the current gui scheme, whether it be the metal scheme or the
plain scheme, but I don't like it when apps starting have a life of their own
in regards to gui schemes. It just throws me off and complicates things.

-Garrett